Re: Religion and Politics: Iraqi Crisis
Posted: 02 Nov 2014 19:53
Wake Up to Conscious Dreaming
Summerlander wrote:Shabir: "What religion are you?"
Me: "None. I was born into Catholicism but I don't follow it."
Shabir: "Christians are okay, but you should convert to Islam while you still can."
Me: "I am not religious and I don't believe in God."
Shabir: "My friend, I urge you to join Islam or you will burn in hell for eternity when you die."
Me: "There is no hell. When you die, that's it."
Shabir: "You are wrong. When you die you will see, and then I will be there to tell you 'I told you so!'"
Me: "There is no evidence for the existence of Allah..."
Shabir: "What!? Look at the signs!"
Me: "What signs?"
Shabir: "Look at the stars, the moon, the fish..."
Me: "Stars have existed long before us and where not made for us to look at. The moon is a dead world and a waste of one, too. It just shows the slapdash manner of our universe. No intelligent design behind nature. Fish evolved into what they look like today..."
Shabir: "You fail to recognise the signs. Instead you heed that asshole Darwin. Allah will not forgive you. I am trying to save your soul."
Me: "If I am wrong and there is a God then He should pardon me in the afterlife when I honestly tell Him that the so-called evidence was not strong enough and His message was weak and incoherent. He'll find me more honourable than the blind believers. Otherwise, He is not worth worshipping."
Shabir: "You will burn for that. I tried."
Me: "No I won't. Have a good day, sir."
Summerlander wrote:I would consider homicide sober!
nesgirl wrote:It is not too funny if say for example the drunk kills a younger child within your family or your one of your other family member's children. You'd be really angry at the drunk then
nesgirl wrote:Yes, but let me ask you, who does Iraq hate more at this point, Europe or America? Also, I doubt they are going to attack Europe if they have a huge defense. My opinion at this point if I think Iraq is going to go after any country that shows sign of any weakness or has a disaster fall on them to the point where they can't fight back.
deschainXIX wrote:Lol. I enjoyed reading that. Such creatures of passion, the religious are.
deschainXIX wrote:It's a fun mental exercise, planning murders.
deschainXIX wrote:Nesgirl's fears remind me of something amusing my brother ruminated about the other day. He wondered why ISIS doesn't go to Africa and "get their hands on some ebola." He thought if they did that, they could bring America to its knees. Needless to say, ebola is nowhere near some kind of doomsday-disease. It's actually an extremely inefficient organism. The only reason it's such a big problem in Africa is because Africa lacks both good public cleanliness and strong centralized government to handle epidemics. Ebola is only spread via bodily fluid exchange, and it kills its host so quickly the host doesn't have any time to spread the contagion.
deschainXIX wrote:I just thought that was funny. People get rather paranoid about Middle Eastern affairs sometimes. It's definitely one of the greatest problems in our modern world, but many people are concerned for the wrong reasons.
Summerlander wrote:LOL! Tell me about it. They just don't see the sadomasochistic relationship they have with their imaginary Father. They don't see how ignoble it is to join Islam, or adhere to it, out of fear (of hell) and the desire to reach heaven. The Hitch's voice still echoes in my mind: "Created sick... ordered to be well!"
Summerlander wrote:That's why me and my wife love the Jigsaw character so much. This song makes a lot of sense to me:
Summerlander wrote:ow I'm learning something. I won't be surprised if we bury Ebola like we did with small pox. I think ISIS is planning to extend their Islamic empire as far a Northern Africa anyway. In fact, the restoration of the old Caliphate will include Europe too.
Summerlander wrote:Yes. And conspiracy theories about the American government don't help either. Watch how Hitchens deals with a "truther": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNAaDKZ-SuE
Summerlander wrote:By the way, there are other ways in which Islam could take over Europe. In fact, Islamists are already insidiously doing it with their mosques and so-called liberalism! They are taking advantage of our multiculturalism. If you can get your hands on "While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West From Within" by Bruce Bawer, you'll see how.
nesgirl wrote:This happened once before, during WW2, remember? I am thinking we may very well be on the grounds of WW3. Remember how when WW2 was going on, America just sat on the sidelines until Japan got involved? And even then, they mostly fought against Japan. I am wondering if the same thing is going to happen. Except this time, if the Islamic state happens to conquer enough countries, and a natural disaster hits America, they may try to conquer an area in America (power and greed corrupt), and won't hesitate to send their soldiers to attack the area while they are injured so they can conquer the area, which is a very low move, but then again, what do you expect?
nesgirl wrote:And there is absolutely no afterlife I have heard of that can compare to the sense of freedom you get within a Multimedia project or Lucid Dream. Personally I don't care what kind of Lucid Dream I have, whether someone says it breaks the rules to have in real life (like with the EEG), or even if it is a probability Lucid Dream, I just have them and enjoy having them. It is my time away from reality.
Summerlander wrote:Indeed how can one enjoy eternal bliss knowing that sentient beings endure the worst hell imaginable... an eternal one! What a sadist. And great quote by Robert Bloch. It is true that many of us were shaken and angered by 9/11. But I can't help but think about a deeper, sinister sensation that many of us also felt despite empathising with the victims and their families. Part of us savoured the moment, part of us was glad and feeling privileged at the chance of witnessing such atrocity...
And yet, we hate the perpetrators. The men who thought they were doing God's work...
About WWII, America did eventually help Europe against the Nazis. Let's not forget General Patten and his army. America had a lot to deal with and they had to swiftly put an end to Japanese imperialism as it was closer to home. Japan attacked America directly, remember? (Pearl Harbour.)
Anyway, ISIS does not have the potential to defeat or conquer the USA. The latter, let's not forget, is a superpower protected by two massive bodies of water. (And Canada won't hesitate to back it up.)
This ensueing cold war where America, Europe, and Russia are concerned has more potential to get worse that perhaps a Third War could break out. Who knows! Vladimir Putin is certainly a war criminal using KGB tactics to expand his empire. Russians have regressed to something like the Czarist regime.