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Re: The Atheist and Anti-Pseudoscience Thread

Posted: 16 Sep 2014 23:54
by Inedible
Now all that is left is to pick something positive to actually discuss, instead of something to avoid discussing.

Re: The Atheist and Anti-Pseudoscience Thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2014 00:45
by PKJacker
Black holes are pretty cool....

Re: The Atheist and Anti-Pseudoscience Thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2014 01:03
by Summerlander
Black holes are irrelevant to the topic.

I know. We could start by talking about a particular pseudoscientist who has formed a cult and subscribes to a weird form of karma within a cosmic consciousness. His ideology is definitely quasi-theist. A spiritual ("non-physical") caste system is implied. It is all poppycock. I have checked out his literature to know that he even misquoted great scientists and philosophers (either lying in paraphrasing or the context in which the words were used). I'm talking about Thomas Campbell and his TOE (which is no theory at all).

Let me also make it clear to many out there who got the wrong idea about Einstein: as much as he spoke of "God," he was not referring to a personal one. Einie was in awe of the universe. He shared the same sentiments as Spinoza. For all intents and purposes, Einstein was really an atheist.

We should be glad that God, as portrayed by the great monotheisms of the world, does not exist. There is no Yahweh, or Allah, or Jehovah. We should be glad that there is no celestial dictatorship for obvious Orwellian reasons. Just check out Nineteen Eighty-Four and you'll know what I mean.

No God means no Big Brother; no celestial North Korea (as Hitchens put it once); no thought crime; no fear of the leader; no compulsion to love the leader no matter what he does to you and your loved ones; no compulsion to believe without question; no threat of eternal damnation; no boring eternal heaven to drive you insane etc.

I don't think anybody wants to worship a supernatural being who creates you sick and orders you to be well. Those who feel the need to do so enjoy being servile. The relationship between God and His followers is a sadomasochistic one.

So, I say the following with the same level of certainty about the absence of fairies: There is no God.

LucidityMaster, you're welcome! ;-)

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Re: The Atheist and Anti-Pseudoscience Thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2014 01:41
by Inedible
It's unfortunate that it is all summed up so well. Now that it is established that there is no God, now what?

Re: The Atheist and Anti-Pseudoscience Thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2014 01:49
by Summerlander
Hmmm...

We try to disprove the devil? :-D

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Re: The Atheist and Anti-Pseudoscience Thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2014 02:20
by Inedible
It might just be faster to compile a list of what isn't real. Maybe we can have another list of people who are stupid.

Re: The Atheist and Anti-Pseudoscience Thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2014 03:25
by LucidityMaster
Anyone who thinks evolution is 'just a theory' should read Richard Dawkins' book 'The Greatest Show on Earth'. There is so much evidence for evolution, including (but not limited to):

Fossil evidence

Homologous and vestigial structures

DNA testing

Geographical evidence

Natural selection observed in the lab (and the peppered moth)

Artificial selection

Speciation


And much, much more....

Re: The Atheist and Anti-Pseudoscience Thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2014 03:38
by Inedible
And drug resistant bacteria. That happens so fast we can watch it in action.

Re: The Atheist and Anti-Pseudoscience Thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2014 05:44
by Jack Reacher
In all seriousness I fail to see the point of this topic. You are just discussing theories that you believe aren't real?

Whay?

Re: The Atheist and Anti-Pseudoscience Thread

Posted: 17 Sep 2014 05:49
by LucidityMaster
Jack Reacher wrote:In all seriousness I fail to see the point of this topic. You are just discussing theories that you believe aren't real?

Whay?


There is so much pseudoscience on the WOLD forum, that I have decided to make a thread to hopefully get rid of all the absurd ideas.

Can it be done? Well, so far, it seems that even agnostics are stuck in their delusional beliefs.