Re: Is there an afterlife?
Posted: 08 Nov 2014 15:10
(Psst... Hey, scientist: Miller-Urey experiment.)
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Wake Up to Conscious Dreaming
deschainXIX wrote:(Psst... Hey, scientist: Miller-Urey experiment.)
The building blocks of life are scattered all over the galaxy, the question remains however, “where?”.
Yes, there is a giant cloud of alcohol in outer space. It's in a region known as W3(OH), only about 6500 light years away. Unfortunately it is methyl alcohol (commonly known as wood alcohol, though this stuff is not derived from wood), so it isn't suitable for drinking. There is some ethyl alcohol (the drinkable kind) there as well, but it's not nearly as common.
Summerlander wrote:Unlike me, buildit's never read "Lucid Dreaming: Gateway To The Inner Self," and yet he claims to know more about Robert waggoner and readily accepts his New Age stance. Hmmm...
I am remotely aware of who Robert Waggoner is even if I haven't read any of his books.
Summerlander wrote: By the way, genetic units are not conscious human beings, therefore, chromosomes from male and female gametes prior to meiosis were never me. Even at the embryonic stage, where you have a conglomerate of a few cells, there is no self or individual consciousness. It's a pluripotent stage where a defined organism hasn't even begun to form.
It is preposterous and dead wrong to say a sentient being already exists then when we know from neuroscientific evidence that an active, complex brain is required for consciousness to occur.
Summerlander wrote:So no, buildit... unpaired chromosomes do not identify with any human being. They are merely snippets of building blocks with structural "instructions" for an embryological process.
It's like saying a piece of circuitry represents a working computer...
Unlike vertebrates, horseshoe crabs do not have hemoglobin in their blood, but instead use hemocyanin to carry oxygen. Because of the copper present in hemocyanin, their blood is blue.
Summerlander wrote:buildit, I don't have time to tackle all your fallacies about biology but I will say this: you have a lot of work to do as a scientist to convince the whole world of why you are so certain that our kind is immortal.
As for lying, I didn't. You are the one who oxymoronically said you only know Waggoner remotely and yet hail him as an expert on matters that you don't understand yourself. How can you claim someone to be an expert and wholly accept his stance when you haven't even looked into his literature? Do you even know what he claims?
By the way, who started talking about definitions of life? Let me tell you something, my pious friend: being alive does mean being conscious. Even living human's aren't conscious all the time and everybody knows the description of contents of consciousness hinges on memory and reportalibity.
Abortion is another matter altogether. I think it should be avoided. If it needs to be done then it should be done as early as possible as it is safer. I am certainly pro-choice. By the way buildit, nature performs its own abortions no matter what stage. Remember miscarriages?
And fire being alive? lol! Are you sure you're a scientist?
As for the Robert Waggoner comment. Well, I actually side with Summertime on the self serving nature of the situation in which a self pro ported expert says' I saw it in a dream. Now if he has some idea of how to pin point where the continuation is, that would be helpful.
Summerlander wrote:But the core of my argument remains unchallenged.
Summerlander wrote:If there is an afterlife, buildit, I want you to find it and prove me wrong. But the only way you will do that is with incontrovertible asseverations backed by verified grounds. Agreed?