The Second Coming of Nesgirl

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The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby Summerlander » 28 Feb 2017 02:51

Nesgirl is back and her new alias is 'lucidé'. :mrgreen:

For those who never met nesgirl, I've had to describe her on another thread:

'...she was naturally (according to her) an asexual (nothing wrong here) as well as vehemently erotophobic---which caused her to absolutely condemn sexual people and their urges however healthy they might be. (Everything wrong here and I don't need to remind people that a phobia is an irrational fear.) To top it off, the bigot kept making exorbitantly misogamistic remarks such as, "Couples who plan to get married should be killed!"---most of which she erased in shame.

'I can say this much about her psychological state: a highly conflicted individual.'


Who are you kidding, nesgirl? :D

Or should I say ... lucidé? :twisted:

My theory is based on her typing style and the content in particular where this newbie broaches to me the topic of nesgirl:

lucidé wrote:That user at the beginning of this thread? I wonder who she originally was? I don't know what her fate was or if she is even around anymore, but I would have wanted to learn more, maybe psychologically see what was going on with her?

Personally my opinion on this thread, if you lucid dream about any form of deity or religion, keep it to yourself at least on this forum. My opinion is however, users are free to lucid dream about anything they want, and no I don't care what anyone's hated opinion is on the subject, it is THEIR lucid dream, their playground, their mind, their creation, and no one has the right to tell them what they can or cannot lucid dream about. Science should not try to thought police anyone with a machine. I hate Barney the Dinosaur and if it were my opinion, Barney would look like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=865AoXifk7E but many children and handicapped kids really like that purple dinosaur and some even believe he's real. I cannot really criticize them for liking that dinosaur, even if many older children and adults do so.
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

- Padmasambhava

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby lucidé » 28 Feb 2017 03:04

I am not nesgirl, how many times do I have to say it?

I am more accepting of other users than she ever could be.


You have absolutely no evidence I am nesgirl.

As to why I asked about that user, I was fearful that user might have possibly committed suicide based on that shocking avatar.
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An example of lucid dreaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW7ps_VSPkg (1:46 Is that me or is this me? "Am I still dreaming?") Simpsons example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3X1n5Yny3g

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby Summerlander » 28 Feb 2017 03:06

... and practically claims to know her mind in this massive 'Freudian slip':

lucidé wrote:I wouldn't worry about her ever coming back however, just judging from what that user put in as her avatar, I don't believe that's all she ended up doing. I am going to have to conclude she might not even exist at all anymore, and it's probably what you really wanted anyway.
Also I don't believe she was 100% secular like you believe, if she was from Utah like she says she was (take it from me, I live in Utah as well, nice living in the pretty desert mountains), I think she was hiding what she truly was from you, because she was "afraid" of you. I don't think she hated marriage specifically. In the major groups in Utah, they really dislike intimacy outside of a marriage, abortion, animal cruelty, pornography, or rushed marriages (judging from a video that I saw she posted, it was by definition, a "rushed marriage"), all things she would keep criticizing about, so it is my assumption that she was more than likely part of one of these groups and did not want to admit this to you. There are ways I could tell she more than likely was, one major way I could tell is because she didn't curse, she used symbols or substitutes. It's one of the big standards within the groups in Utah that you never use actual curse words. They have nothing against you using symbols or the word "flip".
I really don't need to go on anymore, as she doesn't exist.

I personally don't really care what others believe in real life, unless they push it on me with violence. Believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want. I don't like it when I get criticized for being a fan of Nintendo, like when some Sony fans tell me not to shove my Nintendo beliefs down their children's throats. I can like what I like, and it is my decision to like some good Zelda and Pokemon. If they don't like it, well too bad for them.

I don't believe any adult sounds ridiculous and I don't believe they are lying to their children. You should see some serious sports fans, who tell people to root for specific sports teams, and then what they end up doing to rival sports teams they really don't like, or did you not know about that. If an adult wants to behave like a child, let them. It could be way worse when an adult decides to behave like a child than just storytime or trick or treating, like when Michael Jackson decided to have a sleepover with some children.

I wouldn't say also science completely allows you to share your lucid dreams online either. If they did, I wouldn't have to hide some of the low probability lucid dreams I have. A few of them have around the low probability as flipping 100 heads in a row, and it would be a very difficult lucid dream to explain online without some users bullying me about it.


Your Christ has arisen, Pilgrim. :mrgreen:
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby lucidé » 28 Feb 2017 03:08

I only made a guess just because that's how the religion here behaves. I don't really know 100% for sure if that was the case or not. I stand up for people who are handicapped, because I feel like it's the correct thing to do.

Like I said, however, I am not her. nesgirl had not the ability to lucid dream like I have.
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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby Summerlander » 28 Feb 2017 03:12

What religion? :mrgreen:

Nes ... I mean, lucide, you just couldn't help yourself. I think you expected me to feel sympathy ... or even guilt. I'm sorry to break it to you but I feel nothing. I don't care about you and you should reciprocate. :D
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

- Padmasambhava

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby lucidé » 28 Feb 2017 03:14

I am not nes, I am lucide, like I said.

The nesgirl you would have known would have never posted on a specific thread and tried to help a newbie when specific subjects were mentioned. Like you said, nesgirl was a bigot who hated sexuals.

I am not that type of person, the person who goes around hating people just because of who or what they are. I used to help some handicapped people in a class once, and accepted them for who they were. I care for animals, and I try to help in every way I can. I am sure this nesgirl doesn't do any of that, so I am not sure what you are talking about.
An example of lucid dreaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW7ps_VSPkg (1:46 Is that me or is this me? "Am I still dreaming?") Simpsons example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3X1n5Yny3g

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby Summerlander » 28 Feb 2017 03:30

About the animals ... you have a very poor memory about what you posted as nesgirl, the animal rights activist who could hear cats 'speak'. :lol:

On other areas you seem to be 'very sure' about who or what she was. You changed nesgirl ... and yet, remained the same at the core ...

You made the effort to change for Summerlander ... because I matter to you. :mrgreen:

Now go back and edit some more as your proclivity to regret your posts drives you to do so ... or ultimately erase them. :lol:
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

- Padmasambhava

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby lucidé » 28 Feb 2017 03:50

All you have to do is google the username, and presto, you could find out everything about her from 10 years ago, I even found her "hidden dream journal" she writes in.
I Lucide have learned from my lucid dreams, to treasure every living thing, including animals and humans. I do speak to animals, but I speak to them in their own language, much like that guy from the cat from @#$# show speaks to them, it's called animal psychology.
Lucid dreams from my experience, can do much to cause changes to a mood.

From what I learned in working in the multimedia industry, much of the public doesn't like being forced to play a very restricted video game. They like open video games, particularly sandbox games where you can choose your own path. That's where my idea for lucide came into play. A character with no pre-assigned gender or age, and the personality of which would depend on how the player saw lucide as. The player could decide that for themselves. I found it foolish of myself to make decisions for the player, I would allow the player to make the decisions for themselves, for that is what makes a better multimedia project. This is where my new username came from. My idea for Lutopia works in the same way. A sandbox like place where players can make, play, and create any decisions they want without any consequences or criticisms.
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An example of lucid dreaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW7ps_VSPkg (1:46 Is that me or is this me? "Am I still dreaming?") Simpsons example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3X1n5Yny3g

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby Summerlander » 28 Feb 2017 03:55

The real nesgirl is starting to seep through again. Ahhh ... the old obsession with multimedia. :)
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

- Padmasambhava

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby lucidé » 28 Feb 2017 04:00

Summerlander wrote:The real nesgirl is starting to seep through again. Ahhh ... the old obsession with multimedia. :)


There are millions of students into multimedia.

While this nesgirl seemed fairly good at lucid dreaming like I said, I am unsure if I quote, she could control them like a virtual reality. Like on direct command, role playing her characters and commanding the entire story like she could completely owned the place. Summon things right on the spot, shapeshift, you name it, it is your wish, your command, your control, and every night. I can do that.

Want more proof I am not nesgirl, look at the thread I posted in:
http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19011
nesgirl would never consider posting in a thread like this, she hates these types of users and dreams. It hurts doesn't it that I am right.

*I just sent Hagart a message, he and I were friends before I lucide joined (I met him on another website, and he recommended this website to me), and he said my lucid dreaming advice might be able to help out some of the newbies on here because I have experience with SP and the WILD technique. From many of the posts I've seen, some of the newbies didn't even know what a WILD was, and yet some were consciously entering a dream, unaware of their dreams. I just asked him if I should just take my leave.
An example of lucid dreaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW7ps_VSPkg (1:46 Is that me or is this me? "Am I still dreaming?") Simpsons example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3X1n5Yny3g


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