The Second Coming of Nesgirl

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby Summerlander » 01 Mar 2017 01:56

A famous dude with a beard once said, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."


Who? Confucious? :mrgreen:
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby lucidé » 01 Mar 2017 02:01

She censored out who it was with good reason. Because she did not to offend you.
An example of lucid dreaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW7ps_VSPkg (1:46 Is that me or is this me? "Am I still dreaming?") Simpsons example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3X1n5Yny3g

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby Summerlander » 01 Mar 2017 02:17

Why would she offend me? The Golden Rule appears in many cultures and contexts. But it's not without criticism.

A criminal might invoke the gold rule in court by saying to the judge, 'Your Honour, if you would not like to be sent to prison yourself then you cannot possibly order the incarceration of others; therefore, you must release me! Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!'

Immanuel Kant pointed out in his works how the rule is not foolproof. And yet, the good lord Jesus Christ was among those so-called wise men who endorsed it. :D
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby lucidé » 01 Mar 2017 02:50

Mercy cannot overthrow justice, you are correct. The debt of what one has done must be paid, in one way or another. If someone has done something they must receive justice for, they must be fully accountable for their actions.
I know you are probably judging me, there isn't really anything I can do to change the sudden misbehavior I had back in middle school.

Depending on the severity of the crime, if it is a minor offense, there is no rule against someone else taking the punishment or paying off the debt for you. There was a Utah story I read once, about a boy who ate another boy's lunch, and he was about to get whipped, he was really poor and skinny, and the boy who had his lunch stolen said, "Don't whip him, I'll take the punishment for him!", and he got whipped instead.

There were so many unanswered questions in that beginners' thread. I think some of us users need to take the time to answer those questions instead of arguing, this is supposed to be a lucid dreaming website.

More lucid dreaming from SpongeBob Squarepants:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UtdbhCNmPU
Sleepy time. When Spongebob Squarepants falls out of his dream cloud, he sees that giant sized clone of himself as a reality check and then says, "Am I still dreaming?" But it is very clear in the episode he gained lucidity in those words he said, when he dream met with Patrick, although I am way more interested in the parts where he's wandering dream bikini bottom, because it was never fully confirmed in that episode or not if he was actually seeing Bikini Bottom in a lucid dream or not, if he had that superpower in his lucid dream. Being a cartoon, however, he probably did have that superpower, and it was such a terrible waste of a potential superpower, as he could have had lucid dreams about into sneaking into argh rated movies, oh well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJtkz6ETyes&t=2s

I remember this cartoon clip from when I was younger. But anyway. A character trying to conquer his nightmare gains complete lucidity and fights it in a massive way. What he does to control his lucid dream at the end is extremely impressive for a beginner as well. I find it fascinating even in cartoons to see how beginners and even well seasoned lucid dreamers deal with their lucid dreams.
An example of lucid dreaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW7ps_VSPkg (1:46 Is that me or is this me? "Am I still dreaming?") Simpsons example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3X1n5Yny3g

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby Summerlander » 06 Mar 2017 11:18

Lucid dreaming can provide a way to integrate oneself. You either fight against certain subconscious expressions and relish the control you possess in the lucid dream or you embrace different aspects of yourself by befriend monsters that quickly turn into docile imps. 8-)
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby lucidé » 06 Mar 2017 22:11

The characters to me just like in multimedia design are people or creatures I subconsciously program and design to behave. In other words, they are drones that behave the way I designed them to behave. If it weren't for me to begin with, they wouldn't even exist. Think of the Sims for example on the Sims games for example, if you didn't create and customize characters on the Sims, would they even exist on there? That is how they are almost most of the time I lucid dream (there are a few exceptions to when I treat my characters more like friends, like when I have had a low probability conversation while dream meshing with one or more of my lucid dream friends and we exchanged a key subject in the conversation or if we meshed and both ended up remembering we teamed up to attempt to hit the same target and were both successful, such as reading 2 pages of an open book, which requires the probability luck of more than one lucid dreamer), but I've done all sorts of things with my characters before, and wasn't even afraid to pet the monsters (aw aren't you cute? ) . I think one of the most creative things I've done is I've killed my bullies in my lucid dreams. I just make them bystanders and do X rated violent things to them. By doing this when one is a victim of bullying, you can simulate you are fighting back against your bullies without even laying a single finger on them in real life. This releases a lot of that aggression in the victim (most of the time).
An example of lucid dreaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW7ps_VSPkg (1:46 Is that me or is this me? "Am I still dreaming?") Simpsons example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3X1n5Yny3g

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby Summerlander » 08 Mar 2017 00:49

Wow! I never thought of the lucid dream stage as an analogue to the Sims game. It's funny you made the comparison because I love to lucid dream and my wife loves Sims. :D
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby lucidé » 08 Mar 2017 03:24

Summerlander wrote:Wow! I never thought of the lucid dream stage as an analogue to the Sims game. It's funny you made the comparison because I love to lucid dream and my wife loves Sims. :D

Does she mercilessly kill the Sims like I do?

(Imagines a Sim gets out of the game after a user inflicts a Sims apocalypse on them, and finds out the one behind the computer creating them is a girl. I find when the 4th wall is broken and the find out the opposite gender is responsible, it is even more hilarious, because it is completely unexpected).
An example of lucid dreaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW7ps_VSPkg (1:46 Is that me or is this me? "Am I still dreaming?") Simpsons example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3X1n5Yny3g

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby Summerlander » 08 Mar 2017 15:57

She does everything but mainly make them fall in love and get married. :D
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

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Re: The Second Coming of Nesgirl

Postby lucidé » 08 Mar 2017 22:32

That's not really my interest on there. Usually if I don't kill them, I make the boy Sims and girl Sims platonic friends, and play games together. Usually I give them all the unflirty trait (the Sims version of I am incapable of feeling romantic feelings, and I have no interest in the woo-hoo, and yes this trait really does exist in the Sims 3), so they all seem to have a very easy time being platonic friends. Should I want kids in the game, I have the female Sims use parthenogenesis. They really put the ability for Sims to use parthenogenesis in that video game.
My favorite packs are Pets, Seasons, University life, and Supernatural (Supernatural might seem like an unusual pick, but in this one, if you turn your Sim into a witch, you get to use pyrokinesis. This allows you to cause much more death and destruction to Sims and property in the game than you normally could otherwise.)
An example of lucid dreaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW7ps_VSPkg (1:46 Is that me or is this me? "Am I still dreaming?") Simpsons example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3X1n5Yny3g


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