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Re: Organic Food

Postby HAGART » 05 Feb 2018 23:00

You summed up our programming well.

It reminds me of something I pondered years ago. I saw a small whirlwind of leaves in a corner of the house where it channels the wind. I could only see it because of the leaves, and the leaves themselves would sometimes fly off and new ones were picked up and incorporated. When does that whirl wind die and a new one created? It takes wind, but that corner made order out of the chaotic wind and formed something that we can label. But it's not visible, it's only the leaves I could see. It's an invisible force, like a 'lifeforce', and we are all like those whirlwinds.

One definition of life is when molecules are behaving in an organized manner, apart from the rest of the chaotic universe. For us, it's our skin, and for cells they have cell walls. But if you think about it this way, then an ecosystem is a larger life form in a way, and so is the entire Earth, a large breathing organism. Organic organisms are organized. I wonder though. If we are constantly replacing our bodies with fresh, ageless atoms, why do we wither and deteriorate? It can't be entropy since the atoms are constantly replacing, it must be the program in the DNA for some reason.

Our consciousness as we know it certainly needs time to exist. We constantly need references for comparison, and notice changes in patterns. You can't perceive anything if there is no change, or oscillating waves. It's possible that the true universe has no time. Everything than can happen has happened all at once. We are the ones making up time in our mind to perceive the universe from this 3D perspective, when the total universe has many more D's.

I get my info from You Tube videos that explain it better. If I find them I'll send them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Gotl9vRGs
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Re: Organic Food

Postby Summerlander » 06 Feb 2018 04:02

I love the whirlwind analogy, well put. The Earth is a chaotic ball of mess spinning and hurtling through space ... and also a 'whirlwind' with a lot of meaning and value to our bemused species ... :|

... and a particular property of the universe remains mysterious---or at least our theories and attempts to explain it away haven't shed its puzzling mystique, yet. :geek:

Amidst the chaos, complex molecules allow for interesting and ostensibly meaningful forms such as organisms. But our bodies are not as ordered to suit our needs as would be ideal. Organisms make mistakes. Innate errors---or the genetic kind, for instance---can jeopardise the whole biological system. (But perhaps we can rectify these anomalies with biology as we bid to create a nonpareil ideal for the future.) :idea:

And as if the precariousness of our condition wasn't enough, we have microbial foes to fight. We may survive all these dangers but we will always be affected by interaction with our surroundings; but most unavoidable is our lifespan written inside our cells. There is only so much work they'll do and telomeres are only as long as they make them.

Nature programmed us to die. But you can't blame it---it is blind. :mrgreen:

I'm somewhat familiar with string theory but I will give that video a look-see in my own time. 8-)
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Re: Organic Food

Postby HAGART » 06 Feb 2018 20:13

The video is rather long and boring actually.
Here it is cued to the interesting part where you consider how you are in a 4th dimension.
https://youtu.be/p4Gotl9vRGs?t=159

To paraphrase: In the 4th dimension, all of our life is seen from embryo to death, but we are 3 dimensional beings, only seeing cross-sections of the 4th dimension, seeing ourselves changing, and aging as time passes.

Not sure if that's true or not, but can imagine it. (as best I can with a 3D brain)

Here's Terence Mckenna - "Why our perception of time is speeding up"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L6OjWJSSeE
This is an interesting point of view on time and what is happening in the universe. He's done a lot of DMT to come to his conclusions, but that's another topic. Then again, it's organic!
I knew I could find a way to keep this about organic things we can eat.
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Re: Organic Food

Postby Summerlander » 07 Feb 2018 03:14

Give me some of that DMT juice, I say! 8-)

It sounds strangely feasible but I suspect deep down my mind is going 'This idea about reality is so cool!' and making me defend it all the way. I first encountered this proposal in an issue of NewScientist and remember being mesmerised by how weird it could all really be. We are talking theoretical physics here (organic :mrgreen: ) so if this hypothesis is correct, time is an illusion. To see time without passage we'd have to stand outside the structure that is our reality. Where might that place be? And is it fair to describe it as 'place' if it happens in another space? :shock:
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Re: Organic Food

Postby DawnXEye11 » 12 Feb 2018 21:20

Is this really about organic foods now? Lol Well this is the off topic thread. :lol:

Also, i feed organic veggies and fruit to my birds. However, theres truth to this, whats better than buying organic food so you know its really organic and safe for enviornment is growing it yourself. When you have neither option you just do what has to be done. However, you can tell when something has pesticides when you have a pet. Your pet gets sick eventually or dies. Than again, I get USDA approved stuff and im still unsure at times.
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Re: Organic Food

Postby Summerlander » 16 Feb 2018 00:28

I don't give a fuck. Food is food. :mrgreen:
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Re: Organic Food

Postby HAGART » 18 Feb 2018 20:56

To get back on topic of the off topic,
Food is sometimes "food".
Just be informed and know what it actually is.
There are countless examples of deception, but just off the top of my head, most "honey" and "maple syrup" in the U.S. is actually corn syrup with flavourings.

I got that from this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHjpvpZyuow
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