Life after death?

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Re: Life after death?

Postby Summerlander » 11 Jan 2015 11:48

Go back and revise this thread and you my also read "False Awakening or OBE" where this evidence has been pointed out time and again. 150 years of neuroscience is quite telling. Also, just ask the families of the brain damaged and mentally afflicted. And to append, only about twenty percent of those who suffer traumatic accidents report NDEs (which, contrary to New Age belief, the brain is still active) while the majority say they experienced nothing. NDEs are nothing but hallucinations gdnerated by a traumatised brain. This is a feeble reason to use as evidence for life after death.

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Re: Life after death?

Postby Peter » 11 Jan 2015 21:00

In the simplest terms all NDE are just that, they are near death not death and come back and all experienced in a living body and brain.
As profound as they are and as much as it would be nice to see this a proof it sits in the arena of belief for now
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Re: Life after death?

Postby buildit » 12 Jan 2015 00:14

I find it humorous how some continue to reject the idea of an existence beyond the end of corporeal life. I wonder if it is nature or nurture?
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Re: Life after death?

Postby nesgirl » 12 Jan 2015 00:50

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Re: Life after death?

Postby Summerlander » 12 Jan 2015 01:10

It's nature, buildit. But not in the way you think. Nature shows us the absence of the postulated elan vital and us sceptics point this out to Spiritualists, New Agers, and the religious. And then again nature makes most of us afraid of death, which, as Freud pointed out, causes people like you to hold on to the comfortable fantasy for dear life. In your case it might be both.

Not only is the afterlife belief absurd against all the substantial opposing evidence, I am also glad that an actual spirit realm is extremely unlikely. It means that we are spared the horrifying tedium and agonising madness concommitant with eternal consciousness. :-)

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Re: Life after death?

Postby nesgirl » 12 Jan 2015 02:29

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Re: Life after death?

Postby buildit » 12 Jan 2015 03:23

Summerlander wrote:Immortality is not true, and if it were, it would be a curse.


Only to those whose lives are build upon the desires and wants of a corporeal existence.
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Re: Life after death?

Postby nesgirl » 12 Jan 2015 03:34

buildit wrote:
Summerlander wrote:Immortality is not true, and if it were, it would be a curse.


Only to those whose lives are build upon the desires and wants of a corporeal existence.


Eh not quite Buildit. How about those who are handicapped and don't desire to be handicapped for eternity? Or those who are sick and cannot be cured of the illness. Why not think about that for a second?
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Re: Life after death?

Postby buildit » 12 Jan 2015 04:09

nesgirl wrote:Eh not quite Buildit. How about those who are handicapped and don't desire to be handicapped for eternity? Or those who are sick and cannot be cured of the illness. Why not think about that for a second?


I am oddly quite certain than any afterlife would not mirror our corporeal existence. For example, is your Lucid Dream environment identical to reality? I suspect our lucid dreams are a preparatory stage towards non-corporeal existence.

On the plus side sex appears to be irrelevant in a non-corporeal life. ;) Think how upset Summerland would be. :lol:
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Re: Life after death?

Postby nesgirl » 12 Jan 2015 04:16

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