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Attempted to WBTB last night... Couldnt fall back to sleep

Posted: 15 Jul 2014 15:08
by Kman43759
Last night I went to bed at 11:00 and set an alarm clock for 5:00am (six hours later) so the alarm went of at 5 and I read the forum for an hour and then went back to bed... But I could not fall asleep!!
Do you guys think maybe it was because I usually go to bed at 10 so maybe i was messing up my sleep cycle?? I also kept moving every once and a while… next time Ill just choose a side to sleep on and stay still

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Re: Attempted to WBTB last night... Couldnt fall back to sle

Posted: 15 Jul 2014 21:48
by JonSnowLD
Been there man :( it really sucks right! I don't think you need to stay up for that long though-sure it helps but if you're not gonna be able to sleep then go back to sleep after half an hour, or even 15 minutes. Find a balance that works for you! :)

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Re: Attempted to WBTB last night... Couldnt fall back to sle

Posted: 15 Jul 2014 22:45
by Xbonk123X
yeah been there it sucks you wake up and cant go back to sleep it can be frustrating and annoying try listening to brainwave entertainment, practice meditation, or just go to sleep earlier than a hour try like half hour just find what best fits you :D

Re: Attempted to WBTB last night... Couldnt fall back to sle

Posted: 16 Jul 2014 05:47
by HAGART
It seems small and insignificant, but I know from experience, light will wake you up, even if it's from staring at a TV, Computer, or a Cell Phone. When I WBTB, I stay away from those gadgets now. There of course are other factors, but light in our eyes does trigger us to wake up, and even something like a computer screen is enough to do it. You can still sleep, but can take over an hour at times!

I usually just get up and make a bathroom pit-stop and get a glass of water. That's enough to wake me up without becoming wide awake.

Re: Attempted to WBTB last night... Couldnt fall back to sle

Posted: 16 Jul 2014 09:35
by Kman43759
Oh well whenever I WBTB, I usually do stuff on my ipid, maybe thats it

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Re: Attempted to WBTB last night... Couldnt fall back to sle

Posted: 16 Jul 2014 09:46
by HAGART
I only give suggestions. It's up to you to decide. And actually waking up, and seeing light, which triggers a release of serotonin, which wakes you up isn't so bad. It can wake up your mind as your body naturally sleeps as intended, due to habit. (Mind awake body asleep... that's the key). The only down side is, it can take a really long time to fall asleep again. I was in bed, trying to sleep, for two hours once.

Also a short WBTB, just get out of bed and drink some water or visit the bathroom also works. It's enough to snap you out of the dream and the haze of hypnopompia. Then you lay back, still sleepy, but awake at the same time, and that's the mix you want to achieve.

Re: Attempted to WBTB last night... Couldnt fall back to sle

Posted: 16 Jul 2014 16:43
by Kman43759
Last night I tried staying up for half an hour instead of an hour and I still kind of had problems so next time ill just maybe get up, go to the bathroom and sit in the dark for 10 mins... ALTHOUGH I did remember more dreams than I usually(0) do, I remembered 3 dreams so maybe Im getting close to finding what works for me :)

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Re: Attempted to WBTB last night... Couldnt fall back to sle

Posted: 16 Jul 2014 19:01
by HAGART
Regardless of lucid dreaming, I WBTB for the simple fact that the dreams are far more vivid and memorable. Being lucid is just the icing on the cake, but even a plain cake is better than none at all.

Re: Attempted to WBTB last night... Couldnt fall back to sle

Posted: 28 Jul 2014 06:47
by shams
HAGART wrote:It seems small and insignificant, but I know from experience, light will wake you up, even if it's from staring at a TV, Computer, or a Cell Phone. When I WBTB, I stay away from those gadgets now. There of course are other factors, but light in our eyes does trigger us to wake up, and even something like a computer screen is enough to do it. You can still sleep, but can take over an hour at times!

I usually just get up and make a bathroom pit-stop and get a glass of water. That's enough to wake me up without becoming wide awake.


When I wake up after 6 hours of sleep, i have one or two dreams in mind and have to insert them into a journal, ONLINE. So when i do this, i can't go back to sleep. What to do?

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Re: Attempted to WBTB last night... Couldnt fall back to sle

Posted: 28 Jul 2014 09:13
by HAGART
Remember thee old pencil and paper technique? It's an archaic practice I know. (Being sarcastic)
I just jot down notes and keywords and later, if I'm not too lazy, flesh it out into paragraphs on my computer. You can go ONLINE later with your notes.

It's funny to try and decipher my handwriting when I'm half-asleep, but a few words is all it takes to spark the full memory of the dream. And really it's just memory from the source, your mind, that is important.

But I heard many reports and can vouch for this myself: any light will wake you up and trick your mind into thinking it's daylight. You can still lucid dream but that little bit of light will make it very hard to fall asleep again. If you can, it works, but expect 1-2 hours.

Without light you can WBTB in only 15 minutes. (That's my experience anyway and for what it's worth, that's all I can offer).