Domintheos wrote:Got it, what I find interesting about your "disposition"--is that you literally believe yourself to be a program that's executing itself....and once it's "machine" ceases to function properly; you'll disappear back into the "pool" of "code" you came from. So when you feel "hatred" or "love"--what you're saying is that it isn't really "you", but it's the data your machine is translating and executing? Please do explain, are you real or are you just a program within a machine?
Here's the answer that you and Lucide have clearly been anticipating.
My guess is that you saw a post where I made an analogy comparing the human brain to a computer. No, that was naught but an analogy. Yes, we are similar to computers running a program, but we are not literally computers running a program.
our "disposition"--is that you literally believe yourself to be a program that's executing itself....and once it's "machine" ceases to function properly; you'll disappear back into the "pool" of "code" you came from.
What I believe is that we are biological machines in a sense. Nature, through evolution and natural selection, has clearly selected for the most efficient species at reproduction. The perfect organic machine, one that is self replicating and self maintaining. You could compare our proteins to the coding, and our DNA to the program. Chemicals have a tendency to react, and through the chaos of the natural world, the reaction between many organic compounds has provided us with what we currently are today. But in no means do you return to a "pool of code" or whatever. It's clear to me that we will return to the state which we were before we were born... an inconceivable nothingness, non existence in a way none of us can perceive. Do you remember the year 1854? No. And we won't remember the year 2163 either, because none of us will be around until then.
So when you feel "hatred" or "love"--what you're saying is that it isn't really "you", but it's the data your machine is translating and executing?
Obviously it is me feeling emotions. Everything you perceive is you. But yes, emotions are just the result of a chemical being released in our brain. The evolutionary advantage to emotions is that creatures who experienced emotions were probably more likely to take care of their own species due to sympathy, and made them form closer bonds with their children and mate. This in turn made those more attached to their kin more likely to put their lives on the line for them, and so the trait of emotion was selected for the most successful survival of a species. But by no means does this invalidate them. Emotions are just as real as anything else.
Please do explain, are you real or are you just a program within a machine?
Yes, I am real. Even is I was literally a program within a machine, I would still be real. A computer is a program within a machine, and it is still real. We are biological machines led by both our DNA and subconscious. "you", the consciousness, ego, whatever you want to call it is really not anywhere near as in charge as you think. We are led by our DNA, our basic functions like breathing, metabolizing, homeostasis, digestion are controlled by the brainstem, pons, midbrain, medulla, which has almost no interference with the conscious mind, the "you", (the ego (although I kind of dislike this term. Psychology is bullshit and Freud was a nutcase, ego is misused far too often on this forum)). Our bodies do a lot of shit without our permission. In the end, our perception makes us, and that in itself is just a sense. All senses are products of the brain. Which is why we are our brains.
I hope my explanation was thorough enough for you.