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I'm finding it difficult to use this site

Postby carohunter » 06 Mar 2013 02:01

I became extremely ill with swine flu approx. 3 years ago. I have always been an energetic and happy individual.

However was unable to return to work - which I love - and found myself sleeping all day.

Whilst dreaming I actually thought I had woken up, bathed and dressed.

However the dreams have taken over the daytime hours.

I have to see my Dr. this week as the above has overwhelmed a normal life.

If anyone has experienced the same and has a solution please contact me.

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Re: I'm finding it difficult to use this site

Postby tea » 06 Mar 2013 09:08

i don't really get how "I'm finding it difficult to use this site" is an appropriate title. do find ir difficult or not?

about your dream-habit: i don't know in what kind of mental state you are but usually i would not worry about dreaming. what do you mean by "the dreams have taken over the daytime hours"?
do you mean that you sleep all day long, dreaming (lucid?)?
what about the nights?

it sounds to me as if you simply switched your sleep-schedule... but if i got that right: you're worried because you often (always?) have those false awakenings (you can read more about it here: http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/false-awakenings.html) and you can't really tell what's real life and what not. did i get that right?
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Re: I'm finding it difficult to use this site

Postby Ryan » 10 Mar 2013 08:12

carohunter wrote:I became extremely ill with swine flu approx. 3 years ago. I have always been an energetic and happy individual.

However was unable to return to work - which I love - and found myself sleeping all day.

Whilst dreaming I actually thought I had woken up, bathed and dressed.

However the dreams have taken over the daytime hours.

I have to see my Dr. this week as the above has overwhelmed a normal life.

If anyone has experienced the same and has a solution please contact me.

If you're having issues functioning in this physical reality in a normal/average way... then I'd honestly suggest stopping *EVERYTHING* related to lucid dreaming.

Just go and live a physical life. Don't think about anything metaphysical until your life is sufficiently stabilized... and yes, please talk to a doctor.

I fully believe that the point of this life *IS* to interact with others in this physical reality. Spiritual growth has NOTHING to do with anything in your dreams. Just go and live your physical life as physically as you can.
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Postby taniaaust1 » 11 Mar 2013 02:21

Ryan..this person cant "just go and live an everyday life".. she's VERY SICK. Your comment was no different to you saying that to someone who has severe cancer or has two broken legs being told to go and live an every day life when all they can do is lay in bed. Its distressing for sick patients to hear people say that when they cant do it and are laying in bed wishing they could.

Lucid dreaming can be a gift for a bedbound patient as it allows one then to experience all the things one isnt capable of doing in daily life. It can help to maintain psychological health (as long term bedbound patients are prone to situational depression).

Spiritual growth has NOTHING to do with anything in your dreams

Spiritual growth can happen anywhere even thou a dream, its not limited, even coma patients may possibly be still growing spiritually
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It sounds like you may of developed chronic fatigue syndrome from having severe swine flu and now due to CFS have hypersomnia (and Im guessing too a lot of weakness and lethargy as well).

Chronic Fatigue syndrome is commonly triggered off by viruses thou I havent as yet heard of swine flu triggering it but on the other hand I dont know many who have had swine flu. (EBV, CMV and other viruses in that family are more common triggers of CFS thou ANYTHING which is a major insult upon our body esp immune system can trigger it in those who have the predisposition for it). I highly suggest that you may have to find a specialist who specialises in CFS (and strongly suggest that to do so that you go to one of the CFS support sites and ask for good doctor recommendations as there as many doctors even specialists arent good at dealing with this illness).

Im an expert in this disorder (Im up with all the research of it), so if you want more info on it, feel from to message me (If you tell me what country you are in... I may be able to point you to a good specialist for the disorder to get a proper diagnoses or get it ruled out if its not your issue.. but its most likely to be if you also have other symptoms other then just sleeping..which Im supposing you do. I suspect you have quite a few issues going on with the illness including memory and concentration issues ... and hence this site is being quite difficult for you to use... hence your title of this post). The memory and concentation issue is a normal part of CFS.

As the other said..you are having waking dreams... and the illness (I strongly suspect ME/CFS) may be helping to trigger these due to you having to sleep so much. (the only way to really treat CFS is via experimental treatments as currently there are no good treatments for the disorder, hence why its very important to find a specialist who is very up with the illness and knows which experiemental treatments are helping ME/CFS patients).

TAKE CARE.. many doctors who arent specialists in the disorder may try to treat someone with it and many of those make the person worst (some are made permanently worst) by bad treatments (make sure you research the disorder well.. if you are diagnosed with this, before you take up your doctors advice do ask him/her who many other patients they've currently treated with the disorder who are as severe as you (some doctors only deal with patients with it in certain subgroups and what is good for one subgroup isnt good for others). Do speak to other patients with it, so you are up with the latest info on it before trying anything for it). Do take care if a doctor offers you stimulants for this.. as they can make this condition much worst and only be a very short temporary fix, those with the condition need a lot of rest.. not getting enough will worsen it.

If you have CFS take care with any drugs prescribed as those who have this condition are usually very drug sensitive and all drugs should be taken in child dosage rates at first to see if they can be tollerated or not. (if you go to the dentist you should avoid anaesthetic containing adrenaline in them.. ask for the other kind).

You are quite likely to have some autonomic dysfunction going on too as ME/CFS damages the autonomic system probably throu the viruses involved...orthostatic intollerance (OI) is an issue for most with ME/CFS (being upright too long makes one feel worst and may bring in more symptoms). Any activities done at all need to be carefully paced out no matter what kind they are.

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So my advice to you is to find a good CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome) specialist (thou CFS forums) and get your doctor to refer you there. *note.. they wont be able to fix your waking dream issue thou... but very important you get a correct diagnoses of your medical condition and start trying to get some support and help for it. If you arent on it already.. apply for gov disability payments for it seeing you cant work. (25% of CFS patients are bedridden or housebound so many need to be on disability payments. Most cant work).
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Postby deepakkumaar97 » 11 Mar 2013 16:25

taniaaust1 wrote:Ryan..this person cant "just go and live an everyday life".. she's VERY SICK. Your comment was no different to you saying that to someone who has severe cancer or has two broken legs being told to go and live an every day life when all they can do is lay in bed. Its distressing for sick patients to hear people say that when they cant do it and are laying in bed wishing they could.

Lucid dreaming can be a gift for a bedbound patient as it allows one then to experience all the things one isnt capable of doing in daily life. It can help to maintain psychological health (as long term bedbound patients are prone to situational depression).



I totally agree with her, in dreams one can do almost anything which is not physically possible, as she says, it is a gift for bedbound patients, it is a chance to experience things which one can't physically.

carohunter wrote:I became extremely ill with swine flu approx. 3 years ago. I have always been an energetic and happy individual.

However was unable to return to work - which I love - and found myself sleeping all day.

Whilst dreaming I actually thought I had woken up, bathed and dressed.

However the dreams have taken over the daytime hours.

I have to see my Dr. this week as the above has overwhelmed a normal life.

If anyone has experienced the same and has a solution please contact me.


Why have you named the topic, "I'm finding it difficult to use this site"???

BTW, your symptoms are simply of what we call False Awakenings.
It is nothing to be afraid of. Although if you want to have LDs this would be very helpful, whenever you wake up after sleeping(in reality), do a Reality Check, so, in this way, you would realize you are dreaming whenever you have a FA.
Do a reality check

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Re: I'm finding it difficult to use this site

Postby Summerlander » 11 Mar 2013 20:39

Have you been in an African country recently? Is it possible that you may have been stung by a tsetse fly besides the swine flu? By the way, you can use lucid dreaming all you want and it may even be invigorating in your situation.

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Postby Ryan » 12 Mar 2013 02:20

taniaaust1 wrote:Ryan..this person cant "just go and live an everyday life".. she's VERY SICK. Your comment was no different to you saying that to someone who has severe cancer or has two broken legs being told to go and live an every day life when all they can do is lay in bed. Its distressing for sick patients to hear people say that when they cant do it and are laying in bed wishing they could.

I just wanted to quickly address this.
No, that's not what I'm suggesting, not by a long shot.
With all due respect, you don't seem to understand what I'm saying really...

However the dreams have taken over the daytime hours.

This is what I read as being the problem. She doesn't know up from down, left from right... physical from non-physical. *THAT* is a major problem. That is the problem that needs to be dealt with. If you can't tell what's physical and what's non-physical, you're going to have a very hard time interacting with other people here.

The solution is to stop coming to forums such as these and focus entirely upon just living your physical life. Get grounded and centered within this physical reality entirely.

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As for "dreams"... yes, I do recognize that you can gain quite a bit of spiritual growth through them. No doubt. *HOWEVER*, you're here in this physical reality for a reason, and I firmly believe that the spiritual growth you can attain *HERE* vastly eclipses ANY growth you can attain non-physical. This reality is the fast track for becoming a better person. This is the personal truth that I've come to from my experiences. Although, I really don't expect anyone who hasn't personally experienced this for themselves to understand. I'll just leave it at that...

Goodluck to you carohunter. I wish you the best and I'll send whatever healing energy to you to help. :)
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Re: I'm finding it difficult to use this site

Postby Summerlander » 12 Mar 2013 10:45

Saying "you're here in this physical reality for a reason" is no different to saying that people dream or lucid dream for a reason. I really don't see where you're coming from there, buddy. Surely, the fact that lucid dreaming can potentially create any scenario imaginable is a far greater advantage in terms of experience compared to what you can do and get in waking life? Not to mention that exercising lucidity during sleep is a precious boon to patients until they get better.

By the way, you'd do well if you read Stephen LaBerge's "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming" as there is a chapter highlighting why the lucid state can be both psychologically and physiologically therapeutic.

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Re: I'm finding it difficult to use this site

Postby Ryan » 12 Mar 2013 18:09

Summerlander wrote:Saying "you're here in this physical reality for a reason" is no different to saying that people dream or lucid dream for a reason. I really don't see where you're coming from there, buddy. Surely, the fact that lucid dreaming can potentially create any scenario imaginable is a far greater advantage in terms of experience compared to what you can do and get in waking life? Not to mention that exercising lucidity during sleep is a precious boon to patients until they get better.

By the way, you'd do well if you read Stephen LaBerge's "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming" as there is a chapter highlighting why the lucid state can be both psychologically and physiologically therapeutic.

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Thank you for your perspective Summerlander.
I don't agree with it, but thank you regardless. :)
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Re: I'm finding it difficult to use this site

Postby Summerlander » 12 Mar 2013 21:08

Which part don't you agree with? What's been scientifically demonstrable? :-|

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