My dream environments are always devoid of people

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Re: My dream environments are always devoid of people

Postby LucidLink » 19 Apr 2013 16:30

I have found you can pretty much ask for or about anything, but sometimes it just doesn't work, but then you should just repeat your question louder! Keep repeating it, and with a strong will and belief, the awareness behind the dream will respond to anything.

But also sometimes, that question is just not meant to be answered or that request delivered at that time. Sometimes the awareness even responds explaining why it wouldn't be a good idea to give you your request.

But generally, ask it anything. If it doesn't work, repeat your question louder with more intent. Truly focus on the awareness behind the dream and ask. Now personally, I think you should try with "show me something amazing!" ;)

And remember, it is also important not to expect what will you get or hear, just be completely open to the awareness, and expect an answer in general. Surrender to it even, make it important.

Good luck :)

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Re: My dream environments are always devoid of people

Postby boardsenseless » 19 Apr 2013 16:42

Thanks again, these are by far the most helpful responses I've read. I usually ask something like "show me something I need to see." Or "take me somewhere I need to go." But it never seems to work, even if I repeat multiple times. I did once say "take me to space." And I took off and flew up through the clouds, through the stratosphere and up into space until I arrived at the airlock of a spacecraft. The craft was empty and I simply floated around the corridors until I found myself in the quarters of a young black lady who told me her bane was Kim but the dream ended before I was able to get any information out of her. So, after what you have told me I'm convinsed now that I need to ask for something more specific. Thanks again.

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Re: My dream environments are always devoid of people

Postby taniaaust1 » 20 Apr 2013 02:52

boardsenseless wrote:Thanks again, these are by far the most helpful responses I've read. I usually ask something like "show me something I need to see." Or "take me somewhere I need to go." But it never seems to work, even if I repeat multiple times. I did once say "take me to space." And I took off and flew up through the clouds, through the stratosphere and up into space until I arrived at the airlock of a spacecraft. The craft was empty and I simply floated around the corridors until I found myself in the quarters of a young black lady who told me her bane was Kim but the dream ended before I was able to get any information out of her. So, after what you have told me I'm convinsed now that I need to ask for something more specific. Thanks again.

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I see some issue with the way you are wording things and doing the asking. By saying "Take me somewhere I need to go"... who are you asking this too? Have you thought of how you are getting there? Maybe if you thought instead I AM heading to somewhere I need to go and start heading in a direction..actually acting with intent.. it is more of a doing then a waiting for a response thing so may work better.

its a stupid example but one could compare it with real life and think of yourself standing in the street.. saying "take me to where I need to go".. instead of actually acting with intent and heading towards a bus.
(yeah what you said may work for some but for many it wont and more intent has to be put into things).

"show me something I want to see".. try instead, to when turning a corner of a building (or doing something in which a new view will come in for you) think .. "there is something I really really want to see around this corner.. something special" .

What Im trying to say is instead of requesting something to happen..actualy think of it happening now instead (to bring it into the present..). Base your actions too on making that thing happen and you should have more success in what you are trying to do.

its like if someone wanted something to appear in their dream.. standing there saying "I want a bicycle." may not get one appearing in front of oneself.. but then if one tries to actually seek it out and think "there is a bicycle here" and turn around and actually look for it (active seeking rather then just asking for one) .. one will have far better luck of getting that bicycle you seek.
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Re: My dream environments are always devoid of people

Postby boardsenseless » 20 Apr 2013 04:55

That's really interesting. I had been ambiguous in my requests because I had been wanting the dream to show me things or people that might be significant to me but that might be new to me in some way, like delving into my subconscious rather than my conscious... If that makes sense? So, rather than saying "take me to Austria" or "show me my mum" hoping for it to show me something I am not aware of or some place I have never been, etc. Anyway, thanks again I will definitely try this next time I'm lucid, whenever that might be. Cheers.

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Re: My dream environments are always devoid of people

Postby Summerlander » 20 Apr 2013 11:50

I still remember a particular lucid dream I had. At first, in the absence of lucidity, I'd been socialising with family and friends in a vivid dream environment.

Then, the absurdity of something made me question my reality and I became lucid. There was a bed in the bathroom and the environment was a pub-abode hybrid. Lucidity had apparently made the dream people vanish too.

I took that opportunity to create a character out of thin air. I raised my normal-looking hands and pretended to hold a human head. I began to imagine a woman emerging, like a tulpa, and, gradually, haptic data simultaneously crept in my mind as a ghostly shape of a head gained density and became more opaque.

It was the bust of a woman but she still looked like a smiling mannequin so I literally breathed life into her. I also played with making her young and old and then made another character appear in a split second. I was happy with the level of control in my lucid dream...

If people are missing and you wish to see them, find them or create them.

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Re: My dream environments are always devoid of people

Postby boardsenseless » 20 Apr 2013 13:23

Fascinating. I always find people disappear when I become lucid too. Thanks for sharing that, really interesting.

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Re: My dream environments are always devoid of people

Postby taniaaust1 » 20 Apr 2013 16:08

boardsenseless wrote:That's really interesting. I had been ambiguous in my requests because I had been wanting the dream to show me things or people that might be significant to me but that might be new to me in some way, like delving into my subconscious rather than my conscious


You can still be ambiguous in what I was trying to say. Im not completely sure you understood what I was trying to say. You can expect "something" and go out looking for "something" (your mind doesnt have to be thinking of a specific thing).. without having any idea what that something is.

Rather then like just standing there asking "show me something", which from your post seems to be along the lines of what you are doing now. Give more a chance for your surprises to manifest by stronger thinking in a more present tense (rather then thinking of something coming to you, think of that something being in your dreamscape for you to find RIGHT NOW eg whatever you see is there right now, right behind you or just around the corner) and giving it more of a chance to manifest right away.

The difference of the thought patterns are that one is like "wishing" for something.. show me (so more of a future tense) and the other is knowing its there now and hence it should NOW be when you look. Its more powerful in dreams to think of something being there right now if you look. (give it thou several seconds for you to see it thou so dont be surprised if you have to actually look about a bit.. I find it often takes my thoughts several seconds to manifest into my dreams).
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Re: My dream environments are always devoid of people

Postby boardsenseless » 21 Apr 2013 10:44

Oh I see, I need more intention in my thoughts. That's really interesting. Have you ever tried meditating in a Lucid Dream? I've heard it can be very powerful, my ex girlfriend claimed she healed an old back injury that way. I really want to out your advice to practice now but I only tend to have Lucid Dreams randomly about once every couple of months or so. Thanks for everything you've shared with me.

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Re: My dream environments are always devoid of people

Postby LucidLink » 22 Apr 2013 20:57

boardsenseless wrote:Oh I see, I need more intention in my thoughts. That's really interesting. Have you ever tried meditating in a Lucid Dream? I've heard it can be very powerful, my ex girlfriend claimed she healed an old back injury that way. I really want to out your advice to practice now but I only tend to have Lucid Dreams randomly about once every couple of months or so. Thanks for everything you've shared with me.

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Well first, I wanna say, we don't even need to mediate in lucid dreams to heal ourselves. I have read alot on lucid dream healing, it is very possible! So I'm sure your ex did heal herself, but mediating in a lucid dream is just one way to heal yourself, and it's completely possible!

Now on mediating In lucid dreams, I have not tried it personally. However I read an account from the author Robert Waggoner who wrote Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self, and in his account he meditated in a lucid dream, and when did this the whole dream scene itself vanished. He became pure awareness in a space of nothing, and then appeared in his front yard in the lotus style meditation position (still in a lucid dream), which sounds very interesting.

It leads me to believe that mediating in lucid dream is an exellent idea that I have to try soon! :)

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Re: My dream environments are always devoid of people

Postby boardsenseless » 22 Apr 2013 22:25

Sweet. Let me know how you get on then I'd be really interested to hear about it. I wish I could have Lucid Dreams more frequently and try some of these things out but I don't seem to have much control over when they occur and, more often than not, they usually start when I have a dream about funnel clouds or tornadoes. Although I have induced them a couple of times through WILD or similar methods but my success rate isn't great. Is there a method that works best for you? Or, is it possible to set the intention to get better at having more Lucid Dreams while in a Lucid Dream?

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