Mr anonymous wrote:Didn't robert monroe reckon it was real? I dont really know what to believe. It's kindof hard to accept that we can do something like that. It would be nice for something to believe in though. i'm real new at this stuff
I'm coming to the conclusion that it is real and these phenomenon are all related.
Let me take it up a notch in strangeness. --- I think they are also interconnected, including with past lives/reincarnation.
Rather than talk about dreams and trying to prove to each other whether they are real (almost impossible to prove), how about an example of verifiable personal history that happened to another physical person
a thousand miles away? If this is true, it is a definite example of information that originated outside of this person's direct physical experience.
Once you accept this as being possible, you need to accept the probability of NDE, OBE and other non-physical experiences as being outside of your physical person as well.
And once you make these intellectual leaps, is it so hard to imagine that LD is part of this continuum of experiences? Do we really think there are a multitude of these unexplained dimensions that are all unrelated? Or is it more probable that there is one (potentially vast) non-physical environment where these occurrences go on?
I have moved from a "normal" LD into what I think may be this sort of space. I'm pretty sure it exists. The fact that many books have described this same thing offers some additional validation to me. However, I wouldn't try to convince anyone of what I have experienced as it could be argued that I was communicating with myself the whole time so I would point you to what I consider a more concrete example... One of many,,, but I am offering just one here.
Take a look at the following link. Scroll down to "Sweet Swarnlata: A Case from Dr. Ian Stevenson" and try to explain away the case of this little girl who claims and proves she lived another life.
My point is this: once you start to accept that this is possible, you have to except the possibility that this expanded non-physical environment is real, and that much of what you are, and can experience, is not located inside of your your physical existence.
The only way you can outright deny this possibility is to argue that this story (and the 19 just like it) never happened. Now how rational is that?
While you are on the page, I would check out the video. It offers a cogent discussion of the facts.