Does the afterlife exist at all? Debate that here.

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Re: Does the afterlife exist at all? Debate that here.

Postby Jack Reacher » 12 Aug 2013 10:45

Still goin at it...
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Re: Does the afterlife exist at all? Debate that here.

Postby Summerlander » 12 Aug 2013 11:05

That's why science forms theories for experimentation. Ptolemy's Geocentric picture was dogmatic at the time until proved otherwise. I think the notion of a soul and afterlife is very much like the 'flat earth' one. We feel like we are at the centre of experience, like there's a homunculus in the brain, when in actual fact we are just vibrating matter like everything else. The self is illusory. That's why Descartes' dualism is so outdated in light of neuroscientific evidence.

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Re: Does the afterlife exist at all? Debate that here.

Postby Jack Reacher » 12 Aug 2013 11:09

All I see these days is random noise.


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Re: Does the afterlife exist at all? Debate that here.

Postby erichsa » 12 Aug 2013 18:56

Rebecca wrote:Guys and girls, please keep the debate civil, there's no place for throwing personal insults here.


Rebecca there is no debate. Summerlander is always right and he is just telling us to see it his way. Do you call that a debate?. :)

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Re: Does the afterlife exist at all? Debate that here.

Postby Jacob46719 » 12 Aug 2013 23:35

lucidinthe sky wrote:As far as I know, from the scientific viewpoint, everything is physical or exists as part of the physical universe. Correct me if I'm wrong.


different dimensions may not be physical at all

the point is, you don't know until you die.
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Re: Does the afterlife exist at all? Debate that here.

Postby Jack Reacher » 13 Aug 2013 05:19

What makes you sure you will know when you die? You will may not have the capacity to know anything when you die, that's sort of the point.
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Re: Does the afterlife exist at all? Debate that here.

Postby Jacob46719 » 13 Aug 2013 05:33

Jack Reacher wrote:What makes you sure you will know when you die? You will may not have the capacity to know anything when you die, that's sort of the point.

the point is you have no way of finding out if that is true besides dying :?
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Re: Does the afterlife exist at all? Debate that here.

Postby Jack Reacher » 13 Aug 2013 05:50

Jacob46719 wrote:
Jack Reacher wrote:What makes you sure you will know when you die? You will may not have the capacity to know anything when you die, that's sort of the point.

the point is you have no way of finding out if that is true besides dying :?

Right... and my point is that even when you die, you may not know, for there is nothing there to know.
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Re: Does the afterlife exist at all? Debate that here.

Postby Jacob46719 » 13 Aug 2013 06:02

Jack Reacher wrote:
Jacob46719 wrote:
Jack Reacher wrote:What makes you sure you will know when you die? You will may not have the capacity to know anything when you die, that's sort of the point.

the point is you have no way of finding out if that is true besides dying :?

Right... and my point is that even when you die, you may not know, for there is nothing there to know.


there is a chance you may be correct. But if you're wrong(meaning God exists as well as Heaven and Hell), we'll know forever.
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Re: Does the afterlife exist at all? Debate that here.

Postby HAGART » 13 Aug 2013 06:27

This topic keeps reappearing because I made a post in the past.
I want to end this discussion/debate/hear-what-I-have-to-say-now,
with as few words as possible. (and think about it)

DOES THE WINNER GET A TROPHY?

Continue. Nobody listens to me anyway.
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