I also don't want to try and dream in the early morning hours, say 7 am+, as sleeping in seems to make me feel groggy and useless for the rest of the day. I also know from experience that trying to lucid dream when you first go to sleep is a big no no, you will not get lucid this way, and on the days where I can get up early without responsibilities, I feel I would rather use those days to actually sleep in and enjoy my sleep.
So what im thinking is, is it really such a bad idea to try and lucid dream before you go to sleep, say around 10 pm? Im thinking this because although you don't go straight into a WILD, I think it might keep your mind in the right state so that should you wake up earlier than usual, your chances of being lucid could be much higher. Does anyone else find they have more success with getting a lucid dream in the early hours of the morning by trying to do a WILD before they go to sleep?
I have never been able to lucid dream during the first sleep of the night, but the HI is strongest for me then and that's also a really cool thing to experience. It does take quite an effort to hang on for the ride though.
I agree that WBTB at about 4-5 a.m. tends to work for me too consistently, but it could take a full hour sometimes to go back to sleep and we don't always have the time for that and would simply prefer to sleep in order to be rested for the following day.
And oversleeping is the worst. I hate that and feel heavy-headed for the rest of the day and it's hard to concentrate.
Only twice have I ever had a lucid dream as my first dream of the night, but they were more like a lucid nap, and after I woke up and went back to sleep, I fell into a deep, dreamless sleep. So it is possible, but perhaps it was because I was sleep deprived at the time.
I don't know what your University schedule is like, but that is what this is about: trying to work around it. If it is possible to take a deep-sleep nap during the day, afternoon or early evening, and get that out of the way, I think REM dream sleep would be much easier for you at night, and of course REM is the best time to WILD or even DILD in my experience. It's also a good WBTB technique and breaks your sleep up into two parts.
Now I am intrigued and should try it. I did try the nap technique once with no success, but like everything I should have given it a week or so before I got use to it, and changed my sleep habit, before I expect results.
Il post the dream here, I don't feel like creating a specific topic for it in the other subforum. To start with, I went to bed at around 11 pm after watching a movie (Happiness.... horrific movie...). As I lay in bed I did a mixture of three things, I would try and ego drop, a sort of meditative technique where I try not to think at all and just experience my current position. I would also start thinking about maths when my thoughts started to pick up (this sort of helped simplify them, takes the weight off them in a way), and when the hypnogogic images got interesting I would stare at them and get into a trance.
After a while I must have fallen asleep, I woke u at 7am and decided to see what would happen if I lay back. Next thing I know I am staring at the Zombies map from BO2, and a new map has been added. For those who have played Zombies from Black Ops will know what im talking about, this is where the dream got interesting for me. The new stage started off in a small corridor, and it felt like I was actually playing the game. Now the dream wasn't set in my room as me playing with a controller, it felt like I was the actual player, but the physics of the game and the mechanics were identical. The graphics were 100% similar to the games graphics, all the movements were the same etc.
As the zombies would get closer to me, I guess I sort of created the map as I went in order to survive. I wasn't lucid so I thought I was actually playing the game, but more and more of the map revealed itself to me as I ventured on and it got more and more interesting. Towards the end of the dream there were thousands of zombies everywhere, and now people and dream character were in the game, also chasing me as if it were tag. The dream ended with me getting tagged by my friend, I was no longer the player from the game but me, running in the stage. It had transitioned into something more organic once people got involved.
So yeah, on reflection that I instantly got into the dream at 7 am without expecting it, I might give this a second round and see if I can make it lucid, and then go back to my space travel dreams and see what barriers now await me.
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