lucidinthe sky wrote:The best way to find out if something is real is to experience it,,,.
Although I often lucid dream, the LD experience can be envisioned as within yourself and not outside yourself. ie: you may just consciously be interacting with your own brain and imagination (I don't agree with this belief but have a hard time convincing anyone this it isn't the case).
In order to get a better grasp of the non-physical reality I think it is necessary to have an experience the you can reasonably argue is 100% outside of your own body/brain/mind. This is why I'm trying to learn to go out of body. If I can experience this stuff and find evidence that it isn't just in my imagination then I'll be fully able to believe and therefore able to argue that I'm really operating outside of my own mind. At that point, I won't really care if I can "prove" it to anyone. I will have enough proof for myself. And once I can do this for myself, I will also have the skills necessary to further explore and learn on my own.