P- *slight chuckle* The fantasy of the dreamer has no effect on the human being... *I don't remember the rest but it was something about fantasies, the human race and some "system"*
Me- Please clarify, I do not understand.
P- At the dawn of time, there was a stash. And when the WORLD began, that stash came to be. When TIME began, the stash was weak and small. And as time went on the stash grew in power. The stash could heal or kill. Open this stash indeed time would dawn again, and then only then could you answer that question. The stash is always open, but the human race has merely blocked thesmselves from it.
I actually read your post on the Intra-Consciousness, which I found very interesting because I have yet to read Waggoner's book, although I am familiar with Jung's collective unconscious (I know they differ, but essentially describe a unity consciousness that can either be drawn upon, or is a part of all of us.).
Although I do tend to be Jungian in my approach to dream interpretation in the sense that I believe the dream world is all a part of our consciousness, I am fascinated and very open (I guess hopeful) that we are all connected and the possibility that consciousness is the building block to everything else (if that makes sense).
I was pretty amazed by the conversation you had with the presence, as well as you feeling it. Did it ever have a face, body, or any type of visual attributes?
Both of our dreams pretty much ignored the question we asked! But yours at least gave some hints toward the answer. The "system" that was referred to reminded me of simulation hypothesis, where we are living out a simulation of what the real reality was like. But it also reminds me of a lucid dream I had where I called out for my dream to take me where it needed me to go, and I was subsequently pulled out into space backwards (one of my posts). When I got out to space, I came upon one of the most beautiful sights I have ever laid my eyes upon (even if it was my dream eyes): It was the universe, and I kept getting closer and closer until I was watching these very colorful organisms But more than the visual pleasure, I had a very powerful intuition, or a type of direct knowing, which was the universe was composed by many organisms of consciousness, yet were all one being. When one was born (or created) it had little to no consciousness, and as it grew, it became infinitely more conscious (or powerful in relation to your dream). Maybe the stash is the source? And what he said about the fantasy of the dreamer having no effect on the human...I'm intrigued, but lost in the proverbial sauce.
IF intra-consciousness / collective unconscious were true, then couldn't we possibly already have the answers? Which could explain the reason that both of our dreams laughed at us when we asked? What if the stash was your true expanded consciousness, and we are all blocked...by what/how/why I don't know (just a thought experiment )
I wonder if you, and also I, had been more assertive and persistent toward the answer of our questions if they would have been answered in a direct manner. But then again, your dream told you that you WILL play the game. I also wonder what kind of information you would get if you asked about the stash in a future LD.
Your dream got my head cogs turnin'!