Lucidity in the first sleep cycle

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JonSnowLD
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Lucidity in the first sleep cycle

Postby JonSnowLD » 20 Jul 2014 17:31

I know that the best time to induce an LD is after several hours of sleep but I had an awesome lucid dream last night which was in my first sleep cycle!

I'd fallen asleep after quarter to 2 and then woke up at quarter past 2 after having a very vivid and reasonably lengthed lucid dream. it must have been in my first sleep cycle seeing as i remember looking at the clock at 1:45ish. is this as unusual as I've been led to believe!?

My theory as to why my dream was vivid so early on in the dream is two nights ago I ended up with only 3/4 hours of sleep so I could have been experiencing REM rebound (that 3-4 hours was also after drinking a fair amount of alcohol so I'm guessing REM was pretty much nonexistent that night... ;) )

Like many others, the majority of my LDs happen towards the end of my sleep, so this seemed worthy of note that's all!

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Re: Lucidity in the first sleep cycle

Postby Kman43759 » 20 Jul 2014 20:00

Its usually at 3-5AM but its still possible at 1:45 Im pretty sure, infact I think I once had a dream upon falling asleep at 11:00, it was strange, its very rare Im guessing

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Re: Lucidity in the first sleep cycle

Postby JonSnowLD » 21 Jul 2014 10:46

Yeah, it was a good job i woke up after cause I don't think I'd have remembered it otherwise!

Although reading my post back I realised I made a mistake with the timings-I actually looked at the clock at a QUARTER TO 1 begire falling asleep, not 2 so this is after an hour to an hour and a half of sleep not half an hour DX sorry about that!

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Re: Lucidity in the first sleep cycle

Postby HAGART » 22 Jul 2014 22:58

I've had some lucid dreams early in the night, as my first dream, and every single time it was because of REM rebound. Then I go back to sleep thinking I'll be lucid again, but nope, I sleep like normal after that.


(You can always use the EDIT feature to change your first post to get the time right. And begire? (before) :mrgreen: )
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Re: Lucidity in the first sleep cycle

Postby JonSnowLD » 23 Jul 2014 10:16

Yeah I was hoping to become lucid again after but didn't ;) I did not think to use edit! DX next time I will ;)

Double checking this reply for spelling mistakes now... ;)

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Re: Lucidity in the first sleep cycle

Postby Peter » 28 Jul 2014 09:11

I have had a few over the years but they are very rare. I think the exception would be for shift workers with busted sleep cycles.

In saying that I have been playing with some techniques and been on the edge of projecting (OBE) in the early evening but will very intense feelings that made me bail. I will keep working on this and see where it leads.
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Re: Lucidity in the first sleep cycle

Postby JonSnowLD » 30 Jul 2014 20:02

Yeah, the theme seems to be that they occur when a persons sleeping schedule has gone awry for whatever reason!

Peter, having an OBE/WILD within the first sleep cycle sounds incredibly difficult but good luck!

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Re: Lucidity in the first sleep cycle

Postby Peter » 30 Jul 2014 21:30

LOL - thanks.

I have some ideas on getting there but the big barrier is that when I get close the feelings are super enhanced and I need to get comfortable with that fact and then let it run as normal.
Also even If I dont get there the relaxation is good and sets up for a good first sleep cycle
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Re: Lucidity in the first sleep cycle

Postby dreamstudent » 26 Sep 2014 20:04

Interesting I have also had one of the most intense lucid dreams ever after going to bed rather late and consuming a good portion of alcohol. There was no induction either nor was I awoken from the time I went to bed to the time I woke up. So I became conscious in the dream purely from the dream which according the certain psychological theories (you cant know you had a dream unless you wake up in-between a REM cycle) isn't possible.

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Re: Lucidity in the first sleep cycle

Postby Goldkoron » 26 Sep 2014 20:36

I am unsure what you mean. I have recalled plenty of dreams and even lucid dreams which I know for a fact happened in the early sleep stages of the night upon waking up in the morning.
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