Religion and Politics: Iraqi Crisis

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Re: Religion and Politics: Iraqi Crisis

Postby nesgirl » 14 Sep 2014 03:11

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Re: Religion and Politics: Iraqi Crisis

Postby Snaggle » 15 Sep 2014 06:15

Obama is an idiot anyway, in case you haven't noticed by now. They should have gone with Sarah Palin back in 2008 for Vice President, but the citizens didn't want a FEMALE running for office. I knew he was an idiot from the start. Also they re-elected him again because they didn't want a religious man running for office. Mt Romney was actually very straight and upfront, I thought he would have made a better president, and unlike most religious men, he wasn't out blabbing his religion, forcing it on others, or showing it off, he was actually more serious about his job, and said what he was going to do in helping aid the other countries (I believe if Romney were elected, he would have actually done something about the Iraqi crisis, religious or not). I hope there are others very serious about their jobs, and no I don't care about their personal life (unless they are treating others horribly), if they are serious enough to take care of this country and the others.
I am hoping that next year in America when they hold their election, there is actually a President chosen that will have the knowledge enough to help aid the other countries in this situation.


If Obama really was serving America we could call him an idiot, but he's serving the NWO not America and will be collecting his 100 to 200 million dollars in bribe money once out of office. As for Sara people don't vote for the vice president. Mc Cain was an air head neocon and everyone was sick of neocons and Obama lied about not being one in the first election. Romney lost because Obama bribed people and only started austerity programs after winning re-election. One can hardly go for a walk down the streets of America with out being invited to church or having a Christian try to win you for Christ, so electing someone of "faith" is not something the average America is opposed to. If you ever come to America remember don't feed the grizzly bears, don't try and pet the cougars and don't let the Christians talk about Jesus!

Mormons are not considered Christians by Christians and are also the most obnoxious of them to non-Christians. They prowl the streets in pairs dressed in suits and knock on doors trying to convert people - we turned off the lights and pretended not to be home if we spotted them first. Romney could not talk about his religion and have anyone believe he won the republican nomination.

As for his character he was invested in a Goldman Sachs white slavery investment fund - why is not he and everyone at Goldman Sachs in prison like they belong to be! Here's how he made his fortune warning contains some adult language http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBH7a_dWJ5c Romney is anything but wholesome. He was also another Neocon.




Snaggle is actually pretty angry at me right now, because I told him to treat women like me with respect, saying that women are humans and deserve to be treated as such. Which is why you haven't been seeing much of him or the others lately. Actually you don't see too much of gender equality in religions either, in case you haven't noticed.


Nesgirl I'm not angry with you and found your comment silly. I said that dream girls are too loose and that the real ones are better. I accept that you're an asexual and like a lesbian or married woman have no sexual interest in you.
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Re: Religion and Politics: Iraqi Crisis

Postby nesgirl » 15 Sep 2014 19:07

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Re: Religion and Politics: Iraqi Crisis

Postby Summerlander » 15 Sep 2014 23:15

You both make valid points. Let's avoid conflict here. nesgirl, can you list reasons why the world should be anti-romantic? Snaggle, can you recount personal experiences with Mormons (good and bad)?

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Re: Religion and Politics: Iraqi Crisis

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Re: Religion and Politics: Iraqi Crisis

Postby Summerlander » 17 Sep 2014 01:43

Interesting ideology. But it will only work once we become sufficiently advanced to be able to make such changes. Genetic-engineering is how we'd go about it, I'd imagine. But would we really want to get rid of sexual urges. Is sexuality the real problem? Or psychopathy? By manipulating the gene pool we could eradicate human evil and asexuals could still co-exist with those of us who are good and civil despite sexual urges. Not every sexual person wants to sexually molest others. As for romance, it isn't something that everyone follows. I think people should be free to express themselves. If romance is banned, what happens to art?

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Re: Religion and Politics: Iraqi Crisis

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Re: Religion and Politics: Iraqi Crisis

Postby Summerlander » 17 Sep 2014 02:49

I concede that pornography can be a bad influence on otherwise good people. But I have sexual urges and I don't dream about raping or molesting anyone. I cannot speak for everyone,of course, because we are treading on subjective grounds. If I feel the need to sexually satisfy myself, I will either have consensual sex with my wife or masturbate (like many do). And then there is lucid dreaming where I would rather copulate with a dream character that emulates sexual attraction for me. It has to me mutual. Reciprocal.

You may be a cynic and disbelieve me, but, if you could be sure that I am not perverted in any way despite my natural urges, and that there are many like me that are unlikely to fall quarry to psychopathy, would that sway you in any way into accepting, in the least, the preservation of the good "sexual genes" and perhaps a little tolerance of those romantics who do not descriminate against those who feel different?

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Re: Religion and Politics: Iraqi Crisis

Postby nesgirl » 17 Sep 2014 18:49

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Re: Religion and Politics: Iraqi Crisis

Postby Summerlander » 17 Sep 2014 19:24

There is definitely no guarantee of anything, that's for sure. What about virtual realities fulfilling sexual fantasies and urges as a solution as opposed to castration en masse?

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