superfly9 wrote:I love the fact that I have finally conquered my fear of non-existence, with mainly science and the belief that.. the universe is so ridiculous.. that something whether it be conscious or not.. there has to be something after this.
I doubt whether in my lifetime that it will be proved, but I will never believe in the supernatural or the fact that since you have heard or seen otherwise in a Lucid Dream that you now believe in retard crap..,
Sorry, am I missing something here? Why would you have panic attacks and existential meltdowns as a result of Catholicism? As far as I know, Christians believe that humans are infinite beings and that they will never have to experience a great "nothingness" because God will either throw them into eternal agony for "not believing in him" or take them up to heaven for eternity. So ... what? And then you seem to say that atheism and science have led you to believe that "there has to be something after this." Actually, atheism is the fuel for the existential meltdowns and all of that. Because atheists have the guts to admit that the evidence suggests we are simply biological machines with nothing inside of us and that there is no God up in the sky, looking down.
Christians just wrap themselves in layers of denial and base all of their beliefs on whether or not those beliefs give them a warm, fuzzy feelin' inside. If it doesn't give them that "warm, fuzzy feelin'", it must not be true!
In my opinion, you don't even need science to disprove Christianity (although it certainly does). I mean, either God is some psychopathic, egotistical, power-crazed deviant who created humans to live in a world full of suffering in the mud and whom he implores to believe in him against all reasoning OR Christianity is full of crap.
Imagine if someone came up to you and said, "I love you more than anything else in the world. I know that you have no proof of this and that you only just met me, but I NEED you to have faith that I love you. Now ... I want you to love me back, too. And if you don't love me back, I AM GOING TO TORTURE YOU EVERY SINGLE DAY OF YOUR LIFE FOR ETERNITY!"
Doesn't really add up.
But even though Christians don't really have any reasoning to support their claims, agnostics are probably the most stupid and ignorant of everyone, atheists and Christians included. I find it so amusing when people say things like "what's the point in debating whether a god exists; we will never figure it out."
Of course there's a point in debating it! How can people be so disinterested with the world they live in to just sort of shrug and say, "Eh, screw it, it takes too much energy to contemplate these things. I'll just focus my entire being on earning my next paycheck." That's basically what agnostics say.
Too much is at stake to plead ignorance. You either live your entire life in constant fear of some Lovecraftian maniac in the sky judging your every action (even though some of your actions don't even hurt another living thing, they are still considered inherently evil by Christianity) or you employ reason and end up burning in hell forever. I mean ... at least Christians seem to realize that you need to pick a firm, solid side in the argument or else you're an idiot. Mainly they think this because they use Hell as a scare-tactic. In fact, I'd be so bold as to say that the reason Christianity is so popular in the world is because people are scared of Hell. They don't really believe in the fairy tales of Christianity, not really; they're just too scared to admit they don't.
Anyway, you have to pick a firm side in the argument. Ignorance is never an acceptable answer.