Lucid Dreamers and God

For those who wish to discuss the purely scientific aspects of sleep and dreams, including new research and future technologies.

Have you ever tried to communicate with God in the phase state (LD/OOBE/AP)?

Yes, and I was successful
3
7%
Yes, but nothing happened
2
4%
Yes, but what was encountered was a product of my mind
5
11%
No, but I am willing to try
21
47%
No, and I'm reluctant to try out of fear
0
No votes
No, and I never will (I'm an atheist who doesn't see any point)
14
31%
 
Total votes: 45

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nesgirl
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Re: Lucid Dreamers and God

Postby nesgirl » 08 Oct 2014 21:52

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Re: Lucid Dreamers and God

Postby Summerlander » 08 Oct 2014 21:53

I agree with Peter. A lot of people are happy in their relationships and human beings don't usually think about their genes in future generations being more numerous and successful over other individuals'. This happens in evolution naturally and without living beings needing to be aware of this. We are usually more concerned with morality.

I take your points, too, nesgirl, they are indeed valid and bear some truth. We may not totally see eye to eye but I enjoy our conversations and am quite happy to debate about cloning and a possible asexual solution to many of the problems we have.

A few years ago I heard about a man, a philanderer, who was arrested once it was found that he had fathered about 200 kids and had not supported any of them. They were in their 20s/30s by the time their father was nabbed. None of the mothers had gone off the rails and murdered or harmed their offspring. Sure, some mothers find it overbearing and lose it, but such incidents are not as common as you think. Philanderers can have thousands of progeny everywhere. A few may died before they are old enough to procreate themselves, but, the philandering father will still be ahead of the monogamous male in the battle of the genes. Just thought I'd point that out. Let's also remember that monogamous relationships can go horribly wrong, too, and one of the parents can lose it.

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Re: Lucid Dreamers and God

Postby nesgirl » 08 Oct 2014 22:14

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Re: Lucid Dreamers and God

Postby Summerlander » 08 Oct 2014 22:42

Indeed. I can't argue with that. Both polygamists and monogamists have factors working against them. Maybe artificial insemination is the best bet while we are still sussing out this cloning biz to perfection. Well said.

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Re: Lucid Dreamers and God

Postby nesgirl » 08 Oct 2014 23:46

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Re: Lucid Dreamers and God

Postby HAGART » 09 Oct 2014 01:02

What are we talking about again? I don't know anymore!

I just have nightmarish visions of Lorena Bobbitt now.... :lol:
If we all lucid dreamed this world would be a better place.

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Re: Lucid Dreamers and God

Postby nesgirl » 09 Oct 2014 01:48

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Re: Lucid Dreamers and God

Postby R99 » 09 Oct 2014 04:38

:? WER R WE AGAIN?
I see the Truth now.

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Re: Lucid Dreamers and God

Postby Summerlander » 09 Oct 2014 09:29

I disbelieve in deities. I have encountered hooded beings before, though.

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Re: Lucid Dreamers and God

Postby Peter » 09 Oct 2014 14:31

So is there truly a such thing as a happily ever after?


NO,but there is living happily now and on your own terms and that can be very good.
Who are you I asked, the reply "dont be silly, we are your daughers" many years before they were born


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