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jet199
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Northern Mysteries

Postby jet199 » 10 Feb 2012 12:04

One of the main tenants of Odin/Wodenism is the death of the self and the journey to the land of the dead to bring back knowledge to the land of the living. So maybe Norse mythology should be of interest to those intending a similar journey of their own.

Also, with culture and language being closely intertwined, most English speakers should, in theory, find Germanic spiritualism more open to them than other, more fashionable types.

However there are problems. Most of the myths that we have were written by Christian writers rather than believers and they tended to pick the myths which fit with Christian beliefs or which make the pagan religion look stupid. Another problem is that the writings are skewed towards the myths of the upper/warrior class. We hear a lot about Odin and the courtly politics of Valhalla but we hear little about the agricultural gods that would have played a bigger part in most peoples beliefs. Major gods known to be worshiped in England (and in a way still are) such a Yule, Eostre and Ing are not mentioned at all. Basically the beliefs that have survived in written form are completely separate to the beliefs that have survived through practise and we just have a jigsaw puzzle of all edges and no middle pieces.
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Re: Northern Mysteries

Postby Snaggle » 11 Feb 2012 14:18

jet199 wrote:
However there are problems. Most of the myths that we have were written by Christian writers rather than believers and they tended to pick the myths which fit with Christian beliefs or which make the pagan religion look stupid. Another problem is that the writings are skewed towards the myths of the upper/warrior class. We hear a lot about Odin and the courtly politics of Valhalla but we hear little about the agricultural gods that would have played a bigger part in most peoples beliefs. Major gods known to be worshiped in England (and in a way still are) such a Yule, Eostre and Ing are not mentioned at all. Basically the beliefs that have survived in written form are completely separate to the beliefs that have survived through practise and we just have a jigsaw puzzle of all edges and no middle pieces.


I'm not sure that Yule was actually a god. The Yule festival also existed amongst the Northmen called Jol and as the J is pronounced as a Y it's actually the same word clearly. One of Oden's many names was Jolnir, so he was the god of Yule. The yule festival was a harvest celebrating the end of agricultural work . It was also a time of social gathering and doubtless for the men of hunting (of which Oden was god).Oden was also the god of trade and trade would of been most common at this time. It needs to be pointed out that in a barter society everyone is a petty trader, so Oden would have been a god of the common people too.

It's not certain that Eostre/ Easter was a goddess, as she does not have much historical evidence. Given that she was a fertility goddess if she really existed she would likely be identical to Freyja who was the goddess of sexual fertility and love and also a war goddess as she received half the chosen heroes and Oden the other half.

Ing is very attested in Scandinavian mythology. He's Freyr. Freyr's more full name is Yngvi-Freyr. Yngvi is really a combination of Yng and vin (win or wine in Old english) meaning "friend" but the word friend has changed in meaning originally implying kinship. Freyr just means "lord".. This name is also a family name Ynglinga saga or saga of the Ynglings my family who were the kings of Scandinavia at least in the Viking age and earlier and who are the descendants of Freyr.
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And there is only one thing we say to death "not today"
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