Is there an afterlife?

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Philosopher8659 » 26 Feb 2015 02:45

Summerlander wrote:Life is a problem. It is a pain conduit. Sever the vas deferens. Problem solved, nes. ;-)

Phil, would you say you're lucky or unlucky?

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My life has been deliberately saved, on more than one occasion, I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, so no, luck has nothing to do with me being alive. If it were up to me, I would have died long ago.

The concept of luck, rests on the belief that causality does not exist, at least when one refers to it.

But if you mean, as some do, luck being a synonym for happy, relieved, or grateful, no. I saw the implications of that also, and eventually I ended up for a long time in a state of cognitive dissonance.

We are immersed in a social environment full of mythology. This mythology brings about associations which eventually become hard wired synaptically. It takes a long time to get it right. A real conceptual change has a lot of real physical changes to be made.

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Summerlander » 26 Feb 2015 03:09

You are right. I only believe in subjective luck. The kind of luck that puts a smile on our faces when things HAPPEN to go our way. You can also try to make your own luck, as Toni Montana once said!

I reject the superstitious kind. If a male possesses a big penis he is lucky because he happens to have been born with a particular genome - not because Venus, the goddess, smiles upon him. :mrgreen:

George Orwell was shot during the Spanish Civil War, when he fought alongside a Socialist regiment. The bullet narrowly missed his carotid artery and rendered his voice raspy. When told that he was lucky, he said, "Lucky? I would have been lucky if I hadn't been shot at all!" 8-)

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Philosopher8659 » 26 Feb 2015 03:19

Try this one;

You are driving a car, there are two other people in the front seat beside you. You are in a situation where you cannot see oncoming traffic. Speed limit is 55.

You decide to chance it, and hit the gas. All of a sudden, time stops. You are about 500 feet away. You can now see what you could not before. You take your time in disbelief. Examine things around you, check the oncoming car you could not see.

Then you are back in the seat of the car, time is still stopped. You realize you have a choice.
You decide that perhaps the information is real, and decide to change your actions, as soon as you decide, time starts again, you turn the wheel, and hit the breaks. No one even gets a scratch, otherwise the car would have impacted the driver side, putting my head through the window and snapping my neck,

Try that. See if you think that is luck.

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby nesgirl » 26 Feb 2015 03:25

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Philosopher8659 » 26 Feb 2015 03:31

nesgirl wrote: If you are going to have a surgery, why not just remove the whole thing? Did you know if you are spayed/neutered, it reduces your risk of cancer, and you actually can live longer?


Actually, every environmental acquisition system of a living organism is for the purpose of maintaining and promoting life.

Try this one:
https://archive.org/details/TheAncientDoctrineOfDoow

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Summerlander » 26 Feb 2015 03:32

@ philosopher:

That sounds like making your own luck without realising you're in a funny farm! :mrgreen:

We had a free will topic a while back. It seems more pertinent to this than the afterlife. It is all about perspective and perception for each individual when it comes to the concept of luck.

@nesgirl:

I might not get cancer anyway and I'd rather enjoy a short fun life -- full of sex -- than a long and boringly celibate one. ;-)

Anyway, I'm off to bed. Goodnight, guys! :-)

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Philosopher8659 » 26 Feb 2015 03:34

Summerlander wrote:@ philosopher:

That sounds like making your own luck without realising you're in a funny farm! :mrgreen:



I have seen dew on a windshield deeper than you.

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Summerlander » 26 Feb 2015 03:39

How deep? :mrgreen:

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby nesgirl » 26 Feb 2015 03:39

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Summerlander » 26 Feb 2015 03:41

Each to their own .8-)

By the way...

You're lucky! :-D

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