Re: What are your religious views?
Posted: 01 Jun 2012 07:09
imo if there is a god, he aint doing shit
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Summerlander wrote: Actually, I'm not blaming God. I'm saying he is not there at all. Hypothetically speaking, if there was a God, and if is as infinite and omnipotent as they say, then that pretty much makes him responsible for whatever happens, don't you think? It also would enable him to prevent innocent children from suffering. As Sam Harris put it: either he is impotent or evil. - I'll add something extra: ...or he doesn't exist (nothing but an anthropological fabrication, like Santa Claus, only harder to outgrow).
The world is the way it is because it is random or predetermined by the cause and effect that began with the Big Bang. No God pulling the strings. On free will, there is no free will either. It is an illusion. You may think that you are making decisions but there is much evidence that shows your will is anything but free. check this link where it has been discussed extensively and you will understand why:
http://forum.obe4u.com/index.php?topic=1061.0He did not foresee a world where such horrible people with such twisted, sad minds would exist.
According to the philosophy, he created such horrible people. According to the philosophy, he is omnipotent - saying he could not foresee something is very contradictory, don't you think?
Kranter wrote:Forgive me, for I can't qoute on the device I'm using type this (my PS3 internet browser). @ both of you: I propose this question: Can an ant solve an algebra problem? No. Its brain does not contain the capacity to do such a thing. Humans are no different. Of course we can solve an algebra problem, but we cannot understand God. God does what he does for a reason. Trying to understand is just like an algebraic ant. It is impossible. Why? Because we are not God, nor will we ever be. So to blame God for something like that is just folly. I can understand why you would, but He has His reasons.
One day, during a hallucination superimposed on reality, Nash had a moment of lucidity when he realised that one of his characters had not aged. From then on he made progress and he was able to stay more focused on reality.
Ty8200 wrote:Here is my belief: I believe in everything, and nothing. I do and do not believe in God. No one can or can't say he exists. Perhaps he does not have human conscience perception. Perhaps he does not have an ego or a personality. So he will not stop a pedophile from winning the lottery, or cure a child's cancer, perhaps he doesn't think like humans do. Perhaps he didn't exist, and human consciousness spawned him into existence.
As for the people who depend strongly on science, let me tell you, science is a religion. The so-called facts you are told have the same place in possible existence as God does. What's an atom? Do atoms truly exist, or are they simply made up by scientists because everything needs an explanation? I think the main reason people believe in science so strongly is because it's so accepted, and if you're a "logical" thinker, you're perceived as a person of "intellect", "rational", and having a strong grip on reality. But the truth is, no one can say if we continue to exist after death. No one has died and come back to tell the tale. Perhaps the brain doesn't really contribute to consciousness at all. As we experience consciousness, perhaps the brain simply reacts. Perhaps the brain doesn't react at all, we simply perceive is so. Anything is possible to someone of a reasonably open mind. I think if you simply accept what science tells you is fact, it's no different than following a religion. What is accepted in the mainstream is science, it's not called a religion because it uses technology, human created technology. Only to understand what humans can, and nothing more. What they see through a microscope could be disfigured, dismembered or not even the same thing as what it really is.
As most other people on here, I'm not trying to force my personal beliefs on others, it's just something to think about. I just don't like it when I see people on their high-horses, acting as if they know the truth, when they actually only know what science tells them. The one and only truth is that we can't truly know anything.