Transcending. wrote:Re: The Shocking Truth
Post by Transcending. » Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:46 pm
HAGART wrote:Transcending. wrote:Re: The Shocking Truth
Post by Transcending. » Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:46 pm
Pilgrim wrote:You guys are stealing my line!
Enra Traz wrote:There is no reason to suppose that the brain is a filter for infinite perception. I don't buy that.
Enra Traz wrote:Do you think those hints will be found in this universe? The word could be completely made up ... by the inhabitants of that world. 'Taured' could be completely unrelated to anything we know as a whole.
Transcending. wrote:Damn... This is a lot to take in. I'm only 14 years old... Is this too much for me @Summerlander?
I'll have to come on later today to read the rest of this
Interesting though, very interesting..
Have you guys ever thought about doing a meet up?
I'm out here wayy in The Bahamas though...
Peace And Love Guys <3
Summerlander wrote:Meeting in The Bahamas sounds grand!
Summerlander wrote:We judge others based on what we'd like to be ourselves. But primarily, we just are. We just exist. We overlook this. We tend to define ourselves based on what we do, which is why I deem Sartre's philosophy just as useful today as it was when it was first propagated---because it reminds us of how we first started and how we are prompted to build an essence wherein lies an ego, or self, in the making.
deschainXIX wrote:Interesting that humans seem to have that intuition to some degree.
deschainXIX wrote:Summerlander, if I had experienced something like you described, I would be taking astral projection very seriously.
deschainXIX wrote:From my epistemological perch, there are several facial hairs here, and Occam doesn’t pause for a second before shaving away the longest one: the assumption that indeed you are telling the truth in whole and that you experienced an astral projection.
deschainXIX wrote:If this electromagnetic theory ever yields any hard data, then astral projection will take its place beside meditation, yoga, and lucid dreaming—Eastern spiritual esotericism that happened to tap into some real, functional shit! Though this one would be way bigger than meditation, no doubt.
deschainXIX wrote:That’s a reductionist interpretation of my view, bordering on a straw man. I don’t think that perception is infinite per se. Blake was on the right track, but I don’t think that beyond the brain lies infinity. More approximately, I think that beyond the brain lies darkness. Nil. To view the world requires a subject. There’s no such thing as an objective picture of “the world.”
deschainXIX wrote:Most of the names of states in this world tend to reflect the languages of the populations that inhabit them, no? And that other world has three languages that are the same as this world, which is a hell of a match, probably reflecting an entire system of languages over there that are the same as ours. “Taured” definitely sounds made-up, though. Summerlander’s kids could probably have thought up a better name for a fake extra-dimensional republic.
deschainXIX wrote:Hopefully you can pay for my plane ticket, because impoverished students don’t usually indulge in vacations to the Bahamas.
deschainXIX wrote:I like your restatement of assumptions, by the way, it’s a nice treatise on mindfulness. I would add that, for me at least, mindfulness has become an exercise in discarding the Concept altogether and embracing the infinitude of naked perception. Glancing into the world as though time were gone (time is, after all, just as much an illusion as is space, matter, and everything else) and as though I know not a word of any language, as though I’m reborn every second—Adam in the garden, as Huxley says. That’s as far as we can range into genuine truth. We’re still viewing the world with human apparatus, but we’ve transcended culture and concepts constructed after the merely human.
deschainXIX wrote:And note that, while my quasi-psychotic babble sounds like pure philosophy, most of my conclusions have been drawn not from reading obscure philologists and men of literature and history (though they’ve also been a driving force) but from exploration of science, especially physics and mathematics.
HAGART wrote:Experiencing "Ego Death" in a lucid dream is a goal of mine.
Summerlander wrote:I wouldn't even seek to prove the latter because I don't believe it. The former, I simply wouldn't try even though I know it to be subjectively true; I could arrange for you to meet Helen to confirm her side of the story but she is my friend and could be in 'cahoots' with me. Anyway, such experiences do happen---as I said before, if they never did, then it would be weird. Their nature is what should be in question though and I'm willing to bet that what explains them is quite mundane.
Summerlander wrote:I agree with this. I guess what Enra was trying to say is that we are not conscious of everything if our brains cease to exist. The brain is not narrowing some hypothetical full extent of awareness. To say so is to imply that consciousness does not originate in the brain. This goes against everything that neuroscience strongly suggests.
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