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8K interval on my Timetrial bike, avg HR 180 Max 190 and not fit yet so cant push myself. I get off the scale on HR with a max hit 4 years ago on a climb of 214. All but threw up after that effort

Peter wrote:8K interval on my Timetrial bike, avg HR 180 Max 190 and not fit yet so cant push myself. I get off the scale on HR with a max hit 4 years ago on a climb of 214. All but threw up after that effort

I appreciate your data, did you also attempt to mentally change reality (IARC) while working out? Your heart rate is awfully high even if your an in shape teenager. Please be careful.

buildit wrote:I came up with a good one for those willing to play. While in your dream find a book that you have never read in reality and read it. It's never worked for me but I'm interested to hear what others experience.

Did this saw and opened an unknown Middle English book (around 1,000 pages) and read it while in the hynagogic state.

I came up with one but I haven't had the chance to try it yet:
Play a board game or card game with a DC and see how well the DC plays. I decided Chess would be a good one to play with my dream friends since it requires strategy.

Have never played board or card games; have played numerous video and PC games as hypnagogia - the dream AI (artificial intelligence) plays just like the computer ones. I can often predict what the "randomly generated event" is going to be before the AI generates it and can do the same thing in hypnagogia. The most impressive example was entering Vice City San Andreas - a 3D game and placed without any sense that I was watching a monitor.

Have actually experimented with hynagogia control a lot: I can zoom in or zoom out; can change the angle I'm looking at them from (including above and below); can will the image to change and flash through several dozen HI and stop at the one I want. I can do the latter in LD too. I had an abnormal experience in an LD where I changed an image and could not stop it and tried to change two others that I could not stop either and had all three images transforming into new at the several dozen in a second rate. Wrote it in a dream diary at another site (I only diary things that have not happened to me before).

Your heart rate is awfully high even if your an in shape teenager

LOL - Not a teenager, a 55 yold male. We were talking today. I get regular heart check ups and had an echo cardiograms along with a consult with one of our leading heart specialists after a self referral just for the reason of putting it all in perspective and all appears well. Its just how my engine runs.

Only tried to change the pain in my legs but will look at some way to add to the efforts in some way after talking and reading your posts

I play with HI a lot and believe it is a graphic way to see thought. I can request changes. If I see a plant form during HI I can ask it to get bigger or smaller or change color and that is simple manipulation due to a request with an expected outcome.
I can also request an open statement like I want to see it die and the plant form will grow to adult shape and size and then wilt or dissolve or just change shape. That sort of action is interesting as the path to the outcome is not controlled by me only requested.

This sort of HI is best in late afternoons if I am very tired or early evening on relaxing while trying for a WILD

Peter wrote:Only tried to change the pain in my legs but will look at some way to add to the efforts in some way after talking and reading your posts

Well, I hope we both find success. I'll be off to work out in a bit here and then I will start the new thread called Inter Activity Reality Change (IARC) for us and anyone else to carry on documentation on the topic.


PS appreciate your advice last night too.

I have not done this for a long time, but starting to get a hang of it, just doing the basics really;)