Can lucid dreams be used to cure mental illnesses and heal a damaged psyche?

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Re: Can lucid dreams be used to cure mental illnesses and heal a damaged psyche?

Postby RedKryptonite » 25 Aug 2017 12:32

I wouldn't say I didn't try to attempt this while I was in middle school. That is just a very sensitive subject to bring up, and I try not to bring up some things I did in the past.
It is kind of fun to play games like this: http://www.adultswim.com/games/web/five-minutes-to-kill-yourself-reloaded What's your highest score? Mine is 2.5 minutes.

Hmm...interesting game. just played it for the first time and got 3:48:11 minutes. Its unrealistic but hey,not much to expect from a free flash game.

I have to be honest,there were definite times in the past when I felt that I wanted to end it all forever(maybe I'll go into detail at another time,but not now),I actually had a classmate in college who hanged himself in his room(one of the worst/most painful ways to end your life). We were never close,but by coincidence,it happened when I myself was beginning to feel it again. Fortunate circumstances however lead me away from that (had lady luck not been in my favor,I probably would have followed in his footsteps.) and here I am.

I can truthfully say that I'm glad to be alive today,because I was able to experience the wonders of Lucid Dreaming and Mary Jane,among others. While I do occasionally get the feels(it usually happens when I find myself with a problem I can't figure out and feel hopeless),they tend to be fleeting nowadays and with the help of some of my loving family members,things do go well. I also have a few dreams/goals to aim for now(I already spoke of it in our past discussion),and I've got my dream life to look forward to. so yeah,I'm glad to be alive today. :D

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Re: Can lucid dreams be used to cure mental illnesses and heal a damaged psyche?

Postby lucidé » 26 Aug 2017 02:34

RedKryptonite wrote:Hmm...interesting game. just played it for the first time and got 3:48:11 minutes. Its unrealistic but hey,not much to expect from a free flash game.

I know, but when I am feeling depressed on some days, it's fun. Well at least it's more fun than pressing the X button to instant suicide on some video games. I got in SO much trouble because they had the press X to suicide in a kids game, and I kept making Yoshi say, "Yoshi cannot stand one more minute of this video game!"

I have to be honest,there were definite times in the past when I felt that I wanted to end it all forever(maybe I'll go into detail at another time,but not now),I actually had a classmate in college who hanged himself in his room(one of the worst/most painful ways to end your life). We were never close,but by coincidence,it happened when I myself was beginning to feel it again. Fortunate circumstances however lead me away from that (had lady luck not been in my favor,I probably would have followed in his footsteps.) and here I am.

Sorry about your classmate. I had the misfortune of having friends "die" on me by painful illnesses and a 3 year old cousin murdered by getting crushed, so I wasn't too thrilled about that.

I can truthfully say that I'm glad to be alive today,because I was able to experience the wonders of Lucid Dreaming and Mary Jane,among others. While I do occasionally get the feels(it usually happens when I find myself with a problem I can't figure out and feel hopeless),they tend to be fleeting nowadays and with the help of some of my loving family members,things do go well. I also have a few dreams/goals to aim for now(I already spoke of it in our past discussion),and I've got my dream life to look forward to. so yeah,I'm glad to be alive today. :D

My lucid dreams are often one of the few things that motivate me, since sometimes they are one of the only times I can experience anything without my afflictions. If it weren't for them, I wouldn't have any motivation left. I am wondering if there is a way one day to live in a lucid dream or virtual reality.
An example of lucid dreaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW7ps_VSPkg (1:46 Is that me or is this me? "Am I still dreaming?") Simpsons example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3X1n5Yny3g

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Re: Can lucid dreams be used to cure mental illnesses and heal a damaged psyche?

Postby LoneDreamer » 26 Aug 2017 09:42

I have read this whole thread. I must say modern life really is stressful. I being an depressed introvert for since I was eleven had thought about suicide many times but was scared that my soul will be lost in this world and other scary stuff as told by my mother. I don't believe in it now but it did help me from dying. :mrgreen: But, I must say even then I haven't been exposed to such traumatic incidents such as death of peers. Although, I may experience it soon, considering I am just 18. Also regarding bullying, I most of the time have not been physically bullied even though I was not much strong. Most of the bullying was done verbally. But even then, that including the psychological isolation and a kind of broken family(not divorced) was very taxing for the mind and was very hard to endure. Leading to suicidal thoughts. I must say even now I am depressed many of the times but I can endure it. But my problems seem to pale in comparison for your problems. Lucide and Redkrypontonite. I offer my sincere and deep sympathy for your sufferings and my utmost respect for your hardness and endurance.

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Re: Can lucid dreams be used to cure mental illnesses and heal a damaged psyche?

Postby RedKryptonite » 26 Aug 2017 13:55

LoneDreamer wrote:I have read this whole thread. I must say modern life really is stressful. I being an depressed introvert for since I was eleven had thought about suicide many times but was scared that my soul will be lost in this world and other scary stuff as told by my mother. I don't believe in it now but it did help me from dying. :mrgreen: But, I must say even then I haven't been exposed to such traumatic incidents such as death of peers. Although, I may experience it soon, considering I am just 18. Also regarding bullying, I most of the time have not been physically bullied even though I was not much strong. Most of the bullying was done verbally. But even then, that including the psychological isolation and a kind of broken family(not divorced) was very taxing for the mind and was very hard to endure. Leading to suicidal thoughts. I must say even now I am depressed many of the times but I can endure it. But my problems seem to pale in comparison for your problems. Lucide and Redkrypontonite. I offer my sincere and deep sympathy for your sufferings and my utmost respect for your hardness and endurance.

Thank you for your sentiments. It really isn't fair that people like us got cheated out of a happy childhood,but despite our past suffering,at least life did indeed get better for us(we're not getting bullied/harassed anymore for a start) and hey,if we're all going to oblivion anyway,we might as well make the best of the remaining life we have now,and hopefully even reach true self-actualization in our lifetime. That is what keeps me going :)

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Re: Can lucid dreams be used to cure mental illnesses and heal a damaged psyche?

Postby RedKryptonite » 26 Aug 2017 13:58

lucidé wrote:My lucid dreams are often one of the few things that motivate me, since sometimes they are one of the only times I can experience anything without my afflictions. If it weren't for them, I wouldn't have any motivation left. I am wondering if there is a way one day to live in a lucid dream or virtual reality.

Hopefully the full development of VR technology happens within our lifetime. I wouldn't mind being a 90+ year old fart if that kind of tech is available by then. :mrgreen:

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Re: Can lucid dreams be used to cure mental illnesses and heal a damaged psyche?

Postby LoneDreamer » 26 Aug 2017 14:13

RedKryptonite wrote:
lucidé wrote:My lucid dreams are often one of the few things that motivate me, since sometimes they are one of the only times I can experience anything without my afflictions. If it weren't for them, I wouldn't have any motivation left. I am wondering if there is a way one day to live in a lucid dream or virtual reality.

Hopefully the full development of VR technology happens within our lifetime. I wouldn't mind being a 90+ year old fart if that kind of tech is available by then. :mrgreen:

I couldn't agree more. :mrgreen: I want to play and complete a VR game(a good one) before I die. 8-)

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Re: Can lucid dreams be used to cure mental illnesses and heal a damaged psyche?

Postby LoneDreamer » 26 Aug 2017 14:16

Also, I believe you should meet with your classmates. You may be surprised by how much they have changed most probably the bullies. It may be a memorable experience. Its just my opinion though.

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Postby RedKryptonite » 26 Aug 2017 14:45

LoneDreamer wrote:Also, I believe you should meet with your classmates. You may be surprised by how much they have changed most probably the bullies. It may be a memorable experience. Its just my opinion though.

I've met some of my former classmates/enemies since some of them go the same college as I do,and yeah,most of the ones I run into are quite polite(a few however,are not. but I rarely ever come across them so its not a problem.)

Funny enough,this includes the "baddest bully" that I beat in my last fight. He's actually polite whenever we come across each other. (as in,he actually goes out of his way to say Hi to me. I politely greet him back of course,even though I don't think I will ever be truly comfortable interacting with him.) Of course,I can't exactly gauge his character from just those brief greetings,but at least he's not going out of his way to be obnoxious anymore like he used to. (Fatherhood will probably do that to you. yeah,he's already got a kid at his age. teenage pregnancy is not uncommon in my area)

However,if I'm ever going to go to the high school reunions,I plan to do it after a large amount of time(like 15 years or more)and only after I've gotten my life handled. (I've successfully lost weight/gotten fit,gotten financially successful,have improved my social skills to an even greater degree than right now,etc.) I feel doing this will at least improve the chances of the reunion going well for me. I feel going back now or too soon would be a bad idea.

Overall,its at the bottom of my to-do list. There are many,many things I prioritize doing first before I even consider it. Its very optional,and I don't see myself doing it for a very long time,if I ever do so at all. (which is fine and dandy. its not an obligation or anything)

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Re: Can lucid dreams be used to cure mental illnesses and heal a damaged psyche?

Postby LoneDreamer » 26 Aug 2017 16:18

Regarding fitness. I recently learned to fully climb a ledge(awkwardly) using legs. Now, I am trying to climb a ledge with just my hands. I feel I am close. Just need a little more strength for the pushing part. If I learn this, I will be able to climb anyplace that my hands can reach. Perhaps practicing it in dream may help. 8-)

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Re: Can lucid dreams be used to cure mental illnesses and heal a damaged psyche?

Postby lucidé » 26 Aug 2017 18:42

RedKryptonite wrote:Hopefully the full development of VR technology happens within our lifetime. I wouldn't mind being a 90+ year old fart if that kind of tech is available by then. :mrgreen:

They are already starting on doing this. Sony and Microsoft already have some technology that is the very beginning of virtual reality (I tried some of the games they had in a demo), and while not a full body reality, you are moving part of your body. So I would say a complete virtual reality is not that far away. Nintendo and Apple will more than likely be the ones to be doing some sort of portable virtual reality somewhere within about 20 years, as they are the masters of devices on the move.

Also, I believe you should meet with your classmates. You may be surprised by how much they have changed most probably the bullies. It may be a memorable experience. Its just my opinion though.

I am not sure that's a good idea. Just because some of my bullies were thieves (not in just trying to steal my possessions), and well you never know if someone ever got over this.
An example of lucid dreaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW7ps_VSPkg (1:46 Is that me or is this me? "Am I still dreaming?") Simpsons example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3X1n5Yny3g


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