Summerlander wrote:'Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, "he that is not with me is against me".'
Even Gandhi was well aware that his pious pacifism would not have worked on the Nazis. Imagine if we never had Winston Churchill's belligerence against Adolf Hitler and the Allies continued to employ terms of appeasement just like Neville Chamberlain.
Picture scores of Jews willingly standing still---hoping to set a 'good' example to the enemy---as the Fuhrer's brainwashed henchmen slaughter them like rats. The Holocaust would have been worse; the Third Reich would triumph; Hitler would smile.
Today, imagine Western 'infidels' appeasing the Jihadist masses brewing in the Levant and beyond! Imagine we chose not to fight the Islamic State, an enemy brainwashed by the religious doctrine mandating the enslavement and murder of nonbelievers ...
So much for pacifism ...
I completely agree. That quote says it perfectly. Also the story about Gandhi running around India half naked and giving freedom is absolute bulls**t. Gandhi was just some of the persons leading the freedom fight. It was not because of his non violence. One of the main reasons was the financial strain of the 2 world wars had seriously affected Britain empire. That along with rebellion of indian soldiers and angry population of India was one of the main reasons. But the history manipulated to suit certain agendas in India. Even now just read some history books of Indian high school, jihadi kings who made pyramids out of infidel heads are hailed as secular saints and economists and the native kings(mostly Hindus) are looked down upon.
Also too be true, western infidels have been appeasing jihadis ever since they came. Giving them a label to hide under(islamophobia) even when they threaten to destroy and do attack west, western infidels still protect them. That's not secularism that's just cowardice. The jihadis are not as tough as they look. Just show them their place and they will accept. The problem happens when you let them out of control. Ever since jihadis have appeared in west, the western infidels have always rolled over and shown their belly. Whenever this happens they get more bold. Of all the states in India, Gujarat is the only one with not much problems of jihadis. This I believe is most probably the result of the infamous 2002 riots that happened in Gujarat. I am pretty sure it is known by the westerners considering that it was a heated topic of discussions among the liberals around the world.