lucidinthe sky wrote:No insult intended, but actually it is a fairly simple concept.
I've been hearing this term for a while now and for the life of me I can't figure out what people mean by it.
You can dream about doing anything. Most of the time, this would include doing all kinds of things you do in waking life, but you can also dream about having a lucid dream. Why not?
Dreaming that you're having a lucid dream... denotes that you realize that you're dreaming. Which then makes it not a dream anymore, but a lucid dream, because you realize you're dreaming. I don't understand how you can dream about lucid dreaming... when being lucid means it's a lucid dream and not a dream.
Am I making any sense? LoL
You can dream about waking up too, that's called a "false awakening". There are probably people dreaming of sleep paralysis and other dream related things. The only limit is your imagination.
Yes, but a false awakening is you thinking you're awake when you're actually not. Can you "think" you're lucid dreaming? I don't think you can, because if you "think" you're dreaming, then you're already lucid dreaming. You COULD do the reality checks, have them pass, but you completely ignore that fact and keep going on, but then that's just a "dream" because you didn't become aware enough to realize that you're dreaming.
I suspect a lot of people are having dreams of lucid dreaming and thinking it's a real lucid dream, especially when you want it really badly (like most of us). My dreams about lucid dreaming contain all of the items of a regular lucid dream: Reality checks (they always work in these dreams), me telling everyone in the dream I'm lucid dreaming and getting excited about it, controlling the dream, etc. But it all feels planned and there is no "aha" moment. A lot of times when I really get lucid, I say to myself "Got it!"The big way you can tell is by the memories of the dream, when all the memories including be lucid are the same and fade at the same rate, nothing stands out, I know it's a dream about lucid dreaming.
See, to me, the experience you relay here is, entirely, a lucid dream! The concept that you're "aware that you're dreaming while you're dreaming" is the key point. You did a reality check and you figured out you were actually dreaming. I don't see how this can be termed "dreaming of lucid dreaming". It just makes no sense to me. It's like a double negative or something. LoL
Here's the bottom line, we experience dreams mainly from our memories of them after we wake up. We try to remember what happened and it's always a bit fuzzy. In lucid dreams we experience the dream live, everything is very real as if we are awake and that makes a completely different impresssion on our memory when we wake up. We are experiencing the dream while it's going on, not after we wake up.
See, this is probably where I'm completely different. Regardless of whether I'm dreaming, lucid dreaming or astral projecting... I'm always directly experiencing the experience as it's happening. My dreams are experienced as live and real as right this very second feels to me.
What differs between all my experiences is simply how consciously aware I am during them. I'm either consciously aware that I'm experiencing a reality that isn't this physical reality. OR, I'm not aware that I'm experiencing a reality that isn't this physical reality. But it's all "live" and in full technicolour 3D.
So you can understand my confusion when people talk about "dreaming of lucid dreaming". I just don't see how the term can even remotely exist.
To me it seems like people are adding an extra layer of complexity to something that is very basic and simple. You're either aware that you're dreaming (lucid dream), or not aware that you're dreaming (dream).