lucidé wrote:There is some truth to this in a few situations in that situation at least.
I will let you know, there are really lucid dreams out there where a person will have limited controls as there have been lucid dreams I have had where I have dealt with the same.
It is true that there are lucid dreams where the sleeper lacks control. You can know you're dreaming and yet lack the confidence that you can control your illusory surroundings---in particular when they seem challenging. Control in lucid dreams is not straight forward and thoughts/emotions that just arise willy-nilly can get in the way.
But a lucid dreamer's scope for control will always be greater than that of a so-called astral projector because the former realises there is nothing but the mind to tame whilst the latter believes certain characters and objects are sentient or independent because they are thought to be otherworldly. Psychologically, the believer has already forfeited much of the chances of control; allowing the dream world to play out and 'confirm' their misguided views.
Yes I sure wish that one newbie would have taken my advice the other day when I told him about my lucid dream, but some people don't ever want to listen
I know the feeling.