Summerlander wrote:What kind of anti-scientific sophistry is this that makes the very tall claim indeed that consciousness is primary? What does that even mean?
Antiscientific? Even with human science which is turned from grace with all its materialism, there are prominent scientists who know the truth:
Von Neumann said that "consciousness, whatever it is, appears to be the only thing in physics that can ultimately cause this collapse or [Conscious] observation.“
Max Planck: "I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness.“
Wolfgang Pauli: "We do not assume any longer the detached observer, occurring in the idealizations of this classical type of theory, but an [Conscious] observer who by his indeterminable effects creates a new situation, theoretically described as a new state of the observed system.“
Martin Rees: "The [Conscious] universe could only come into existence if someone [Consciously] observed it. It does not matter that the observers turned up several billion years later. The universe exists because we are [Consciously] aware of it.“
Summerlander wrote:Are you saying that what we call the physical world---with all its natural laws, cause-and-effect, order and entropy---is devoid of any reality and merely a collective mental illusion?
Pretty much. In Hinduism, there is such a concept as Maya, which is illusory material reality, compared to genuine spiritual with absolute existence.
Summerlander wrote:That's not really evidence that the existence of objective reality depends on conscious beings observing it
I have complete untransferable evidence of anomalies. In your framework, my claims are a hypothesis, in mine - it's a confirmed truth. Any claims that try to challenge memories of anomalies are based on what I call the Central Lie, which is clearly seen as false. That is a claim of godlessness and depreciation, any being with high-awareness intellect can see that's false. It's intuitively seen as false. Then even reason alone can prove the conscioussness primarity claim for me. Also, you can't comprehend God just thinking using material mind. You'd have to go beyond that.
Summerlander wrote:God complex alert: You wish to be majorly relevant and special in the origins of what surrounds you---the imagined 'Creator' itself!---when the reality you observe naturally flaunts a distensible age that overshadows your own by an average of 175 million anthropic factors! We know this through the analysis of Hubble's law, mass spectrometry and a mathematical extrapolation of isotopic decay.
Nope, I believe in God and that my soul is a particle of Him. And a part is equivalent to the whole. Soul is eternal in time and equivalent to the Source. That is the amazing truth everyone should accept, everyone is relevant and special.
Summerlander wrote:Newsflash: The universe tells us human life came much later in its actuating, expansive process. Your temporal awareness is ostensibly nothing but a flukey mote on the space-time fabric. It appears that we are insignificant carboniferous bods. I wouldn't be suprised if this reflection scares the egotistical likes of you.
Lies don't scare me. I know that I am everything. And you are too, you just should appreciate yourself a bit more.