Robert Monroe 'Journeys Out Of the Body'
Posted: 20 Oct 2012 15:48
I can highly recommend this book and the others he's wrote...opens your mind to what can be achieved with OOBE's and what happens and where we really go when the body die's
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Ryan wrote:All anyone can do is have experiences and, if they choose to do so, relate them to others in a way which they feel allows them to share their experiences. This is all.
HOW someone chooses to share those experiences and in what fashion/format they do so is only to share information.
Robert Monroe felt that what he was experiencing was genuine. His INTERPRETATION of his own experiences can be debated, but *HIS* interpretation of *HIS* experiences is really all that matters, especially to himself. This does mean that he was biased to his experiences... well of course he is, *WE ALL ARE* biased towards what we experience. However, this doesn't, in any way, shape or form, make him a charlatan. That's an extremely ignorant statement to make.
Summerlander wrote:Monroe claimed to have a scientific approach to his experiences. Yet, there is nothing scientific about his methods of studying the phenomenon. He told people that they should absolutely accept that a real separation from the body was occurring. That's not science. In the realm of science, no affirmation in certainty is made from a hypothetical stance.
You need theoretical solutions (bearing in mind that scientific theory is substantial in calculation and predicting experimental results) and then concepts can be established or falsified. You will find none of this in what Monroe provided as regards the OOBE phenomenon other than cleverly founding his institute and publishing clever books based on lucid dreams he may or may not have had (not to mention his affiliation with crackpot pseudo-scientist Thomas Campbell).
It's not that I'm ignorant or that I don't know what I'm saying, erichsa. I just choose not to be naive and gullible. These people are running a cult and are no better than a jewellery-grabbing burglar. Only they burgle people's minds and sense.
There are people who are biased and there are those who only care about what is practical and what is fact.