Worldenterer1 wrote:That makes no sense because your dream environment depends on you. You are creating it and experiencing it. When you wake up, you are no longer creating or experiencing, but the memories remain. Real things like rock, and water.
See this is the problem...
Do you know this for a fact? You KNOW, for a fact what a dream is... you KNOW, for a fact what this physical reality is.
You're simply assuming what "real" is and what this physical reality is.
This is what's called a pseudo-belief
. Humanity is absolutely rife with this kind of thinking. You're pretty much raised to believe this, so I can't really blame you for it, but there's no real proof of anything you say "is how it is". I don't mean this to offend, but you're stuck in a box. Is that box correct? Are you comfortable with saying, "I don't know"? I am.
Ask yourself this: What if this reality is similar to a dream (aka: non-physical)? I've seen and experimented with many things which has at least provided me with enough insight to CONSIDER this possibility.
Think about what that would mean... open yourself to the possibilities.
Those are outside your body and don't depend on you to stay in existence. All a dream environment really is, is brain chemicals and signals.
Then that means you're a materialist, correct? You believe that the physical body is exactly what it seems to be, and there's no reason to question it? If so, this discussion is just going to keep going around and around with no end...
Yes, I just answered the unanswerable!
You do realize that you haven't answered anything, right? That your answers only rely upon pseudo-beliefs and assumptions which are impossible to prove, right?
Simply put, you believe one way... I'm open to alternative possibilities.