taniaaust1 wrote:Interesting to hear of your reality Jake... it makes more sense why you are having trouble seeing how some of our minds are working with our beliefs and probably are very confused on the way we think and how on earth we could think that esp when we arent following any religious belief.Now lets say im wrong, which I am open to at all times.
Its always good to be open. Due to being open, that has allowed me experience things which I didnt believe were true before I experienced them eg Im not Christian at all but twice have experienced Jesus.. so that was very strange to me. (There are many things I dont believe but are open to believing if Im shown they have some reality to them). I constantly seek out "truth", always analysing my "current beliefs and new ones too.. altering my beliefs as my knowlege and expereinces change.
I'd have to say that my spiritual/religious views are constantly evolving. To add to that confusion.. I have dual levels of beliefs (others who dont have dual belief systems find that very confusing) but interestingly that is possible as they are still true to me.
eg who's got the truth correct?. A cave man cuts his leg open and gets an infection. He believes the infection is due to the cut. A doctor cuts his leg and gets an infection.. he believes the infection is due to bacteria. An energy worker cuts her leg and gets an infection.. she may believe the infection is due to auric damage which is allowing energy to leak and energy contamination to come in and may fix the infection by doing energy healing on her leg.
One could believe ALL THESE THINGS at the same time thou the beliefs at the same time thou they are completely different beliefs. (my beliefs on everything is multi-layed in quite complex ways). I'd believe all those beliefs and if someone asked me the question if I cut my leg.. how I got an infection.. I'd try to respond in a way which the one who's asked me the question would be most likely to understand. (so my posts are quite capable of seeming different at times but I still hold these beliefs and at times the beliefs may seem to conflict to those who dont understand them.
eg I dont think its at all good for someone to be raped..thou I also on another level dont necessarily see it as a bad thing due to other beliefs I carry. Was what Hitler done a negative thing? In many ways I'd say no for various reasons I have due to my beliefs. But on the other hard.. yeah that was terribly aweful thing which occurred and I truely hope humanity dont need to repeat something like that again.
How can I think as I do? its cause I see and experience myself both as a human but also as non human as well (so think from both those views.. the human and the non human.. like I believe we all are)
Anyway.. thanks for sharing where you are coming from. There is nothing wrong with anyone having different beliefs.
I know as a human being you acknowledge the examples I list are aweful, I usually go a bit extreme as it helps truely unravel the heart of an issue, sorry if it ever sounds a bit personal but this is quite a personal topic. I actually can understand how you guys got to where you are, as I myself used to share very similar views. I doubted religion at a very young age and began to question a lot of things. When I moved away from home a few years ago I discovered this site and I used to ponder the possibility of astral planes, spiritual entities and such. However I was young at this time, only 19, and as I have grown older I have begun to mature a lot and have looked not only at the merits of my beliefs ideas, but WHY I decided to believe them.
Looking back I think I was using these concepts as an escape from reality, the dull mundane of every day routine. Then one day a strange idea hit me, something that changed my very foundations and made me wake up to a lot of things. I asked myself, what if this universe truely is the only universe in existence, the only thing there actually is, and its a fluke? That when you die, you truely dont come back, and there is nothing else at all. For a while this actually depressed me because the more I thought about it, the more it made sense. Try it out as an assumption, you dont have to accept the idea but think of what it entails.
Now that im older (21) I dont really bother with such grand ideas because the things most important to me are whats going on in the real world. Sure its nice to have something as your foundation, but I think it is more important to keep yourself informed about the issues that revolve around the societies you involve yourself in,the issues in your family, friends, your country or even the world, and think about how you handle those issues, and how you influence other people. I think how you deal with that is the most important thing and makes up who you are, and no religion or abstract system that is floating around has any domain over what is right and what is wrong in how someone goes about it.