Sander wrote:taniaaust1 wrote:yes.. with experience one can end up staying in LDs for a long time. I used to have that ability to stay as long as I liked. Even beginners sometimes have a long LD (it all can depend on how deep ones state is when one is LD).
as long as you liked? i thought that was impossible since the duration of your LD depends on the REM phases during sleep?
Ive no idea about REM as Ive never paid any attention to all that. I assume you just need to be asleep and then if you are.. your waking mind can stay present while you are.. as long as you have waking mind there and are physically sleep.. you can LD.
I say that as I find I can LD at any time Im asleep (by this I mean I can LD just on going to sleep, just after waking up or even right in the middle of my sleep etc). One thou may have to work at times to keep onself in the dream if the body is wanting to wake up (its hard to explain the feeling one gets when the body wants to wake up but there is a feeling there even if deep in LD still). The closest to waking one is.. the harder it becomes to stay in the dream and the more one needs to work at doing so. You can force yourself to a degree into staying asleep by keeping yourself in the state you are in..
I went throu a stage where I used to be lucid ALL night.. from the time I went to sleep till the time I woke up. Its a state some yogis reach thou in it I wasnt dreaming all the time but was still asleep like a waking observer (not necessarily immerged in a dream but as a separate waking observer watching my thought flow) ...but that was weird as I could be aware in my sleep all night too and not necessarily dream.. that waking observer sleep state changed how things were..
I wish Id timed my past very long LDs to know just how long a single LD could last for but I used to stop the LDs by my own choice after a long time in them.