Violence in lucid dreaming

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Re: Violence in lucid dreaming

Postby taniaaust1 » 19 Mar 2014 10:57

TillyPink wrote:taniaaust. snap. I also had a deep dream of savagely attacking my mother. It brought a lot to light! Although for me i didn't feel better for it, although i totally understood why lol! It just was a heads up that I still had issues of frustration and anger with her. Not being able to sort these in waking life, i then met her in a lucid dream and it was healing and beautiful! :) But I often use lucid dreaming for this purpose.


:) Glad to hear Im not the only one who's beat up their mother in a dream.

I think I must subconsciouslly usually avoid having her in my dreams (I guess that says something) as its one of the rare times Ive had her in one.
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In a way creating a dream is really not much difference to someone being an author and writing a book.. choosing to dream a violent dream is like writing a horror story (writers run there stories over and over in their heads while writing them. Just imagine all the violence going around in someone like Stephen Kings head).
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Re: Violence in lucid dreaming

Postby DreamerMan99 » 20 Mar 2014 03:11

Well its simple... Your brain, your dream, your rules!

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Re: Violence in lucid dreaming

Postby Guitar48300 » 20 Mar 2014 03:46

DreamerMan99 wrote:Well its simple... Your brain, your dream, your rules!

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Exactly my thoughts
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Re: Violence in lucid dreaming

Postby HAGART » 20 Mar 2014 04:16

And we should all do that and find our own 'thought-police'. That's the line you don't cross and it's called scruples, or morals, or conscience....

I admittedly killed many DC's, but I'm no murderer. (I explained the difference earlier).

I actually, seemingly, brought people back to life in a lucid dream before! I can go both ways. I don't get congratulated for that!. We tend to focus on the dark side of things. Anyway, I'm just a kid in a candy store when it comes to lucid dreams! It's all an experiment, but emotions do enter the equations and be prepared for that....

I brought this up before, and I wonder if males tend to be more violent in lucid dreams, than females? And if so, why? Was it upbringing?
My brother has twins- zygotic twins of different gender. I love my niece and nephew, but when he gives a pink balloon to his daughter and a blue balloon to his son, I cringe, and hold my tongue! (The programming has already begin.....) :ugeek:
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Re: Violence in lucid dreaming

Postby taniaaust1 » 20 Mar 2014 11:06

HAGART wrote: I brought this up before, and I wonder if males tend to be more violent in lucid dreams, than females? And if so, why? Was it upbringing?
My brother has twins- zygotic twins of different gender. I love my niece and nephew, but when he gives a pink balloon to his daughter and a blue balloon to his son, I cringe, and hold my tongue! (The programming has already begin.....) :ugeek:


Maybe colours as such dont have a great effect as certain colours are something people either like or dont.
Yesterday my neighbor was making cringe.. she was screaming at her 2-3 year old son for "being a girl" cause he cried in the supermarket.
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Re: Violence in lucid dreaming

Postby HAGART » 20 Mar 2014 19:02

I was using that example (which is a true story) as a simple metaphor to describe much more. There are many examples. If a person's daughter wants to play foot ball, and their son wants to be a cheerleader, some parents would actually have a hard time accepting that. I believe we are all basically the same, but it was society, and parenting that taught us that 'men are from Mars and women are from Venus'. (I don't want to change the direction of this thread, and just clarifying that.) My question still stands.... and perhaps it's more hypothetical and doesn't need to be answered, but something to think about.
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Re: Violence in lucid dreaming

Postby taniaaust1 » 21 Mar 2014 08:40

HAGART wrote:I was using that example (which is a true story) as a simple metaphor to describe much more. There are many examples. If a person's daughter wants to play foot ball, and their son wants to be a cheerleader, some parents would actually have a hard time accepting that. I believe we are all basically the same, but it was society, and parenting that taught us that 'men are from Mars and women are from Venus'. (I don't want to change the direction of this thread, and just clarifying that.) My question still stands.... and perhaps it's more hypothetical and doesn't need to be answered, but something to think about.


ah so do you mean that guys may be directed more towards violence due to upbringing eg .. as in my fathers day.. all little boys had guns!! (so they could play cowboys and indians) or in my daughters childhood days.. swords (eg jedi swords etc) were the thing boys had. So in a way boys fighting is really encouraged. (most parents wouldnt buy a little girl a play gun). I loved watching Western movies as a child with cowboys and indians..but I never had a toy gun.
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Re: Violence in lucid dreaming

Postby HAGART » 21 Mar 2014 16:46

Boys do tend to (not always, but in general) play different games than girls when growing up. (The reason is another whole topic which doesn't have to be discussed here.) But that means boys and girls imagine and daydream differently, so therefore, our lucid dreams may have different content even later in life. I hear many others, and I've done this too, like to go around shooting people in their dreams for the fun of it. It's just a version of "Cowboys and Indians"! Us boys will be boys. 8-)

Unless any girls here speak up and admit they have done the same, I'm going to continue believing my theory that we guys have a natural propensity for violence in lucid dreams.

If they are the mindless, empty shell, zombie-type DC's, I don't feel remorse at all, and sometimes start messing with them, tossing them around like SIMs in a computer game, before I even realize what I was doing. It just comes naturally sometimes in a dream for me. (God Complex?) But if I feel that they are sentient, that's where I draw the line, and I treat them as my equal. Besides, those ones fight back! Maybe I'm just a dream bully..... :?
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Re: Violence in lucid dreaming

Postby HAGART » 21 Mar 2014 17:28

Guitar48300 wrote:Plenty of them were kills that I laughed about when I remembered it.


This one time in a lucid dream I saw two guys in a red convertible and I summoned a huge boulder out of my field of view and it landed on the driver. Then I thought about doing the same to the passenger, but instead, the tinniest little pebble fell and bounced off his head. He apparently died as a result, but I thought it was hilarious at the time. It was like a funny movie to me, and nothing more.
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Re: Violence in lucid dreaming

Postby Kirito » 22 Mar 2014 02:51

Interesting topic. :)

I am pretty violent in lucidndreams, but normally violence for a purpose is what I do. Not violence for fun, unless it is anime style. But we all know that anime style doesn't kill people, you just turn them to your side. :P

In Sword Art Online Kirito said something to the effect of
"It is more important not to do evil in here because it is all just in our heads, and it may not effect the people around us, but it effects us." Definitely not even close to perfect on the quote. But the idea is there.

If you go around chopping off heads and killing younglings (he said that you killed younglings!) that has to have some psychological repercussions. This would be similar to the person that sits around all day and thinks about shooting up a school.

Now I am not saying that all killing of DCs is wrong. I kill DCs a lot actually. :P I make a quest and the DC in my way is a "bad guy" or an orc or a Sith. I can't see anything wrong with wanting to kill one of these types of people. One time my "dad" in dream told me to do something that would show how much I knew that it was a dream and that it was all in my head. He teleported me away and I jumped a DC and he didn't fight. He just smiled at me as I snapped his neck. Honestly, a horrible experience. :P I see nothing wrong with this though, because I an not trying to live out my fantasy of killing people, I am trying to understand the truth, there is no DC. I would recommend things like this for better dream control. Things that you could do in waking life, but you don't. Take off your clothes in public, jump in front of a car, kill a DC, have sex in public (you are probably gonna have sex with a DC anyways ;)), anything that you can think of along those lines.

Raping DCs. I have never felt the need to rape DCs, mostly because every DC girl jumps me and tries to have sex with me as soon as I realize I am dreaming. The exceptions are the ones that I like to have on adventures. Get a real fake relationship going. Haha. I think that fantasizing about doing things like this could lead to acting it out. Most rapists do say "it began with porn, and then it just kept getting to worse and worse porn." It is the rule of diminishing returns, you never will be satisfied with what you have (appetite wise food, drink, sex) you will always want more, so be careful with that you are wanting, it could cause you troubles.

So in conclusion, it isn't what you are doing, it is why you are doing it.


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