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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby HAGART » 12 Jan 2015 01:18

nesgirl wrote:And a queerplatonic friend would never treat another person with whips and chains BTW.


She is leader of the island though and dominates it, so with that sort of personality she might like being a dominatrix. Joey certainly likes to be schooled apparently and needs to be taught a lesson.

That's certainly less offensive to the island than a disgusting hug. Blecch!
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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby deschainXIX » 12 Jan 2015 05:32

I can already foresee what will be the cause of this thread's death....

Since the topic lingers in the boggy mire of fascist asexuality, I have something to say, and anyone who challenges my right to say it should consult Socrates.

It intrigues me when people say, "Hey, I'm not perfect," to somehow liberate themselves from responsibility for their inevitable human folly. What would the "perfect person" even look like? Could any of us picture the perfect person and describe them? I don't think so. And even if we could, would we all universally have in mind the same person? No. Perhaps nesgirl would picture an asexual, perhaps Summerlander a scientist, perhaps myself a serial killer (joking, nesgirl), perhaps HAGART a comedian. Point is, we cannot know what a perfect organism would be like. There is nothing for us to strive towards, no sublime criterion for being holy. So what does it mean for us to defy our inherent nature? If the majority of humans lacked empathy, then that would be considered a "good" attribute, and empathy would be unnatural and sickly. But, granted, that is a poor example because, with that kind of useless evolutionary programming, we wouldn't have made it very far as a species. Empathy is objectively good because our species wouldn't last without it--and according to biocentric morality, our relative elasticity and resilience is what is good. We've come this far with romance by our side and it hasn't inhibited social progress--why ditch it now?

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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby HAGART » 12 Jan 2015 09:57

To DeschainXIX:
All I can say is, "That's nesgirl for ya!"
I hear you though and at least I'm listening.

DeschainXIX wrote:What would the "perfect person" even look like?

Alfred E. Neuman

We all have our own perfect answer and it depends on ourselves, our beliefs, and personalities. Answering a simple question like that reveals a lot about ourselves and I do tend to come across as the comedian of the group. Nesgirl doesn't realize it, but we all know it, she is 'Amy', placing herself as the main character in her story. DeschainXIX, of course, was just kidding when he called himself a serial killer, and certainly I can peg Summerlander as the belligerent scientist of the group.

Does that sound like the worst crew for the Starship Enterprise or what?
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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby deschainXIX » 12 Jan 2015 13:02

Alfred E Neuman is perhaps the creepiest little creature ever to be birthed of human imagination. If that's perfection, I don't want it!

But yeah we wouldn't make it far beyond Earth's atmosphere. I would eject nesgirl immediately and then myself get ejected for ejecting another crew member without everyone's consent. :D And bam, you're down two out of four people. The belligerent scientist is the only archetype that sounds even remotely useful aboard a starship anyways :lol:

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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby deschainXIX » 12 Jan 2015 20:40

Exposure to vacuums is pretty lethal, especially when you're totally submerged in one. It tears the alveolus tissue, and death is pretty conclusively instantaneous if you try to hold your breath. The air being sucked out of you does even more damage. If one vacates one's lungs, however, one wouldn't die instantly; it's possible to survive totally unprotected in the vacuum of space for several minutes, assuming you can be retrieved and your body can be repressurized while there's still a little oxygen in the brain. It's more likely, however, that you would be too irreversibly malformed by the vaporization of liquid from soft tissue and gaseous solutions from pores, the total voiding of the bowels, stomach, and bladder, circulatory compromise, paralysis, and a host of other effects associated with being an organism outside of an atmosphere.

Oh, and yeah, orthostatic hypotension is indeed an astronautical hazard; if you went on a space voyage you would have to be monitored closely by someone with medical knowledge and probably fed drugs continuously.

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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby deschainXIX » 12 Jan 2015 21:56

Shame. I have the feeling that interstellar travel/colonization and terraforming are at the brink of mankind's horizon. Perhaps the development of cryopreservative or cryonic technologies will be necessary before any of that is conceivable, though. Maybe that will be our next breakthrough.

My favorite animal (which is technically a micro-animal, being half a millimeter in length), the extremophilic tardigrade spallanzani--also known as the "waterbear" because of its affinity for aqueous environments--is one of the most versatile organisms known to man, being able to survive far above boiling temperatures and just around 0 degrees Celsius, ultra-high pressures far exceeding the pressures of anyplace found on earth, and extremely otherwise lethal doses of ionizing radiation. It can go 10 years without any food or water. But what is most interesting to me about this animal is that it can survive in outer space. I have the layperson's suspicion that the tardigrade's genome sequence is important for cryonic innovation for humans--since tardigrades can, of course, survive cryopreservation endlessly.

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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby HAGART » 12 Jan 2015 22:14

I think the enemy team has read our plans to get most views. I was putting in some good reps today and was up to about 50, and I know somebody else did recently too because it was only around 1000 yesterday, but then I noticed the Megaman discussion has jumped 600+ views in one day! I give up!
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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby deschainXIX » 12 Jan 2015 22:19

Yeah I don't know if I want to do view boosting. :lol: Full disclosure, I haven't done any yet. I'm trying to further the post cause though. In vain, no doubt.

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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby deschainXIX » 12 Jan 2015 23:33

So what have we learned. That video games triumph over genuine discussion every time. :D

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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby Summerlander » 13 Jan 2015 00:38

They did get a headstart.

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