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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby DesertExplorer » 26 Jan 2015 01:25

Hey, a few days back I was reading a comment of yours and I thought something moved on your avatar. I stared at it for some seconds and then I quitted. Now, when I ended reading your post I did manage to see it clearly that something was moving and then I stared for longer but nothing moved again. :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby HAGART » 26 Jan 2015 01:33

:D
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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby DesertExplorer » 26 Jan 2015 01:40

So it just happens every 30 seconds or something I think.
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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby HAGART » 26 Jan 2015 04:48

I programmed the Animated GIF so I know. It's every 60 seconds.
(I used GIMP)

I know nesgirl is into computer arts, so she would know what I'm talking about. I'm just a rookie though and like to dabble in everything for fun.

I'm a jack-off on all trades and a master of none. ;)
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I accidentally erased the title.

Postby HAGART » 26 Jan 2015 05:34

I had an Uncle tell me once, and I agree, there is no "Computer Science" the way classes label them. It's all Computer Art. Science is just a process of coming up with new ideas, that's all. Art is different. Very hard to pigeon hole. It's an expression. That is all. You take emotion and turn it into something someone can understand whether it's visual art, music, food, all the senses.
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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby deschainXIX » 27 Jan 2015 02:07

DesertExplorer wrote:No, no.. you got it all wrong. First and foremost, poetry is not meaningless. In fact it can have an infinite number of meanings. You just haven't thought enough of it. Second, I hear you, but it's not so linear as you portrayed. I could give you my own understanding for that, but I want you to maintain a clear mind and give a shot at taking a good look at Blake's work. But if you're not interested anyway, just ask me and I will tell you about my own opinion on this.

P.S. Via drugs? I thought that are own nature has plants that can do that. I cannot think of any of these plants to have been elaborated


Depends upon the definition of "meaning." Certainly science and art cannot be compared through the same lens, especially when it comes to meaning; that, I think, is self-evident. If, by your appendage, you meant, "Via drugs? I thought natural plants had drugs in them. I cannot think of any plants that have been enhanced by scientific measure," then ... what? :? I can't make a reply to this until it's legible and coherent, so I'll just move on.

I'm not saying anything about William Blake's work, I'm only analyzing the quote in isolation and out of context, for that was how it was provided. A quote provided in isolation should either encompass the entirety of the quoted person's meaning or else not be provided--otherwise the writer is being misquoted, wouldn't you agree?

As Charles Bukowski put it, "An intellectual says a simple thing a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way." And, no doubt, art shouldn't be discounted. Sinclair's "The Jungle." Orwell's "1984." Stowe's "Uncle Tom's Cabin." These are just a few of the many great works of fiction that have provoked, stirred, influenced, enraged, elucidated, inspired, and ultimately shuttled humanity as it made its way through the passage of history.

Hopefully my poetic savvy isn't too terrible--I write poetry of my own (most of it being sloppy, nihilistic garble) and am very fond of artistic and sentimental literature like Shakespearean sonnets, poetry from Walt Whitman's "Leaves of Grass," and Allen Ginsberg's "Howl"; perhaps the quote is making a biblical allusion? Perhaps Blake is implying that satiating our curiosity about the nature of reality through pursuing scientific knowledge will only lead to furthering our potential and affinity for evil and a taste for knowledge sends us down the path of destruction, while art is quite the opposite (an over-used and insipid idea that is commonly illustrated through the image of a medical doctor not being able to admire the female face but rather only seeing it as a collection of bones and muscles like the orbicularis oris and the zygomaticus major all tugging away and performing optimally). A juxtaposition and conclusion that, I reiterate, is meaningless and fallacious. Unless you're thinking in the mode of "soft thinking," a term Hagart and I coined to refer to thought that isn't entirely logical and is so abstract it cannot be related in words. For example, the things that occur to you when submerged in hypnopompia.

HAGART wrote:I'm a jack-off on all trades and a master of none.


I think I'm the only one who caught that. Lol.
Well said.

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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby DesertExplorer » 27 Jan 2015 11:28

I'm glad to hear that deschain! I personally believe that Blake wanted to say that science has a limit and that limit can be death. Your finite organic perception, as he would call it, can get you as far as your brain can. But imagination can take you anywhere. but, I admit it's a little more personal than that; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_%28Blake%29
He disliked science, perhaps because of all that visions he had in his life. Memorable fancies! I love them.. Especially that with the devil and the angel. I will post a part of that in my signature as well.

They were calling him a madman back then. Can you beat that? I mean, the guy makes so much sense! Well, now I guess. He must lived in the wrong era, hehe..

To continue, the thing is that you wonder about life, alright? In your left hand you have art and in your right the science. When you use science, you can almost calculate how much life you have left. While time is an illusion, science makes it linear and you can see an end, death clearly. But when you look with the eyes of imagination life is infinite. There is no end you can see and even if you can, it can be the beginning for something else, as well. But what does tell you the truth? Your brain or your mind? I stop here as it is about belief now.
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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby DesertExplorer » 27 Jan 2015 11:40

Hey, nesgirl! I did saw that avatar so many times and didn't notice it was you!! :D
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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby Summerlander » 28 Jan 2015 01:05

Hmmm... I'm going to start thinking softly as the world is killing me softly...

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Re: nesgirl and Summerlander

Postby deschainXIX » 29 Jan 2015 00:30

I just watched the movie "Killing Them Softly." Nice, gritty little crime film about capitalism.
Well said.


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