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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Philosopher8659 » 24 Feb 2015 15:20

When one asks, is there an after life, one should clarify what they mean by life.
We are a mind. And like anything else, we can be said to be alive or dead commensurate with our ability to do our own work. It is the same criteria one uses for anything that has a function.

Once we have determined what life is, can one say that afterlife is anything other than not life? Or is one claiming an alternate reality, i.e. the real is actually only part of the real?

But, foremost, implied in the question itself is life. Can any question be answered about life to something demonstrably not functional? Like the mind of man.

So, the question assumes that one has an understanding of life on the one hand, and then assumes that the inverse of the state is the state of which it is the inverse. Now if that is not a Liar's Paradox, I don't know what is. In short, the question itself demonstrates that it is a product of the lack of judgment, i.e. Like a ghost asking, is there life?
And then there are those claiming one way or the other, who demonstrate that they cannot even comprehend the principles of language. By definition, the dead arguing about the very same proposition. That is just too rich.
If it were not a real tragedy, people should be laughing their ass off.

And, was it not said that Quantum Mechanics bested religion? That instead of one afterlife, there were an infinite number of alternate realities. Things just keep getting better. We can either live forever in the not reality, or die an infinite number of time, again, in a not reality. Amazing. God, I miss the old fashioned root canal.

And as for my bad English. I suspected as much, for after winning a couple of writing awards at LA Tech, and my English teacher wanting me to take up writing professionally, I chose other forms of labor, some technical, some manual. I told her, I would not have anything of value to write about until about the age of retirement. Anybody can write gibberish which that thing called the common man claims to be good.

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Philosopher8659 » 24 Feb 2015 22:34

nesgirl wrote:But finding out what cessation is for many people seems like a much easier route than dealing with bullying and criticism. Because then they never have to deal with it again


That is kind of a narrow minded view. They have to never do anything again. The human mind is for producing human will. Nowhere in the definition can one say that pain or pleasure is a defining characteristic. It is true, most people do not have the wit to establish a life goal, and their life, as far as the community goes, is of little consequence, but if you take that view, you are claiming that what someone else thinks is somehow part of your definition of mind, which is not true.

You spend a great deal of time pondering what you are not.

In my early studies in Lucid Dreaming, I asked my teacher about this, I called it subjective identification with one's environment, or reality. You might try that.

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Philosopher8659 » 24 Feb 2015 23:01

You should think about what I said a great deal more.

What may either be asserted of, or denied of, any thing, is determined solely by the definition of that thing.

When you understand that, you will understand, I am, that I am.

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Summerlander » 25 Feb 2015 01:12

I don't have to accept anything that doesn't resonate with me, especially not the poppycock asseverated time and again by certain people. I don't have that problem, buddy. I also couldn't care less whether you agree with my views or not. But in case you do, I'd rather have you play devil's advocate. It's much more fun and can give birth to great debates. :-)

Can you do that without crying and playing the victim as some babies in here do?

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby DesertExplorer » 25 Feb 2015 01:23

hahaha.. Your answers are so repetitive and thus predictable.

When I say "accept an opinion", I mean to ignore if you have a different one and move forward. You don't try to persuade anyone, do you? If not, the only reason that you keep talking is that you feel the need to make your one view stronger. It's just a personal thing, so I don't blame you.
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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Summerlander » 25 Feb 2015 01:29

Well, thank you for not blaming me, my friend. And no, I cannot ignore nonsense. If something is wrong, correct it. It's what I do with my kids and it's what I do when people fart from their mouths. :mrgreen:

Your approach tolerates ignorance and stands in the way of development and progress. What if we ignored the Nazis when they were decimating the Jews? Imagine that! :-D

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby DesertExplorer » 25 Feb 2015 01:32

Lad, where oh where am I wrong? If you find exactly what I said in this thread that proves ignorance then we will talk about it. You see? You are the one who talks out of his ass, because I even said that I agree with you.
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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Summerlander » 25 Feb 2015 01:40

You just said that accepting an opinion is to ignore it if you have a different one. Why wouldn't you voice it? No guts and no confidence? In today's war of ideas you wouldn't stand a chance! :-)

Your demeanour is wrong and will get you nowhere. You "agree" with anything, it seems, either to be polite or because you want people to like you. There is also a level of dishonesty in that sort of approach.

"Summerlander... I agree with you. Philosopher, I agree with you..." :mrgreen:

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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby DesertExplorer » 25 Feb 2015 01:44

Wrong again! I agree with what you said about faith when an individual believes in a God that there is no logic behind him. But I say that faith is essential in many occasions. Then again, I was sure that you wouldn't quote me and just take some of my words and stick them together. hahaha sorry.

next time, buddy..
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Re: Is there an afterlife?

Postby Summerlander » 25 Feb 2015 01:48

*Dumb&Dumber's Loyd's voice*

"I...DON'T...CAAAAARE!"

:mrgreen:

I'm going to ignore you now cuz I don't agree with you and that's what you told me to do. :-D

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