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Re: Organic Food

Postby DreamerMan99 » 09 Nov 2017 20:44

We have a lot to learn about the universe. I'm excited what other revelations will come in my lifetime.
Good luck,
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Re: Organic Food

Postby Summerlander » 10 Nov 2017 01:04

And they seem to be coming at a faster rate than before, too. But I wonder if we'll ever be able to satisfactorily explain two things: The existence of reality and consciousness. :shock:
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

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Re: Organic Food

Postby HAGART » 12 Nov 2017 23:06

I know what you mean. Why is there anything at all? It makes no sense.
We are just the Universe perceiving itself which is a paradox we simply are not equipt to understand because of the very fact that your thoughts are limited to the speed of light, composed of the very stuff it's trying to perceive. You would have to change your concept of time and see the Universe for what it really is: everything is and always is and every possibility is all at once, but with the illusion of memory, we perceive it linearly, unable to pinpoint the exact moment of change, so life might as well be a movie with frame rates, yet most is left on the cutting room floor, forgotten, yet it all seems like a seamless story of life....

So yea, those are my thoughts about organic food.
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Re: Organic Food

Postby Summerlander » 12 Nov 2017 23:46

You win the best post on organic food, then! 8-)

Also, an important philosophical addition: How can absolute nothingness ever be? We can't even imagine such state (no space-time). It seems impossible or it makes no sense. What's nothing like? Not like anything and certainly the opposite of organic food. The opposite to existence? So it doesn't exist? How can nothing ever be? Be what? It can't ... :geek:

Further thoughts on organic food. :mrgreen:
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

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Re: Organic Food

Postby Summerlander » 13 Nov 2017 23:06

Especially cheese. But I try not to eat too much before bedtime otherwise my metabolism will be on overdrive and actually waste more energy on digestion than gain it. Green tea appears to help with gaining lucidity---most probably a placebo because it makes me think of the ancient Chinese drinking it before practising dream yoga. :idea:
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

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Re: Organic Food

Postby HAGART » 14 Nov 2017 01:27

It's probably the caffeine in green tea. Mind awake; body asleep, is the classic bifecta for lucid dreaming.
Can't discount the placebo affect of your delusory imagination however.

One thing I learned about yesterday is, Phytic Acid and how it can block our ability to absorb nutrients. I just heard of it yesterday, so know very little, but am already thinking, "Why is this not taught in schools?!" It would have been more helpful than Dodge Ball, just saying.
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Re: Organic Food

Postby Summerlander » 14 Nov 2017 12:27

In England they like to sugar-coat things for kids. No mention of the horrors of Phytic acid. :mrgreen:
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

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Re: Organic Food

Postby RedKryptonite » 22 Nov 2017 16:37

Hey Summerlander,
Despite your views on this (I can't take a side,I simply don't know enough about the topic,but you've opened my eyes nonetheless. I once considered eating on organic if I ever became wealthy,but now I must seriously research before thinking of implementation if the cons truly outweigh the pros,as you've said),would you agree that buying legitimately high quality vitamins and health supplements (I use the term "legitimate" because I'm aware there is a ton of fraud in the supplements industry. thankfully,I know some good sources) is still worth it for rich individuals who plan to live a very hedonistic lifestyle in order to mitigate the cons of their chosen life path?

Something mildly related,but I did learn long ago that "Paleo" is nothing more than an unsustainable fad,and like many other "diets" (especially low-carb diets)out there,is largely horseshit. Here's a video that does a very good job of explaining this truth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB4LGrKjfTc

Now if only someone would invent a machine that directly counts the calories on your plate,then I can seriously get started with trimming down. I already have the info I need for a successful weight loss journey but counting calories as of now is a major pain in the ass. :x

There is actually already a cup that measures the calorie content of your beverage called "the vessyl"
https://www.myvessyl.com/

I suppose its only a matter of time before a machine that counts solid food comes out. If nothing else,I suppose I could hire someone to count the calories for me,but I'd probably have to get somewhat financially wealthy to do that :lol:

BTW I agree with your views on using genetic engineering to better our future generations. I honestly don't see anything wrong with giving your offspring the best genes you can give them to succeed in life. A lot of people spend nearly their entire lives just to survive on a miserable 9-5 job,because they lack the skills(and/or determination)to go further than that. There is nothing wrong with sparing your kids such a fate.

Something else I gotta say,and I imagine many will disagree or even get upset at what I'm about to say,but if you look at yourself and you notice a lot of serious flaws/traits in you that could be passed down to your children that may put them at a serious disadvantage in life,pls consider adopting instead. That way,you not only prevent the risk of creating a helpless being cursed with bad genes,but you save a child from a potential life of misery in foster care as well. (Though be sure to take good parenting training and work to mitigate whatever personality flaws you may have before going this path so you could raise the children as best as you can. Everybody should do this,but sadly the average parent doesn't,hence why they often screw up with raising their kids.)

Or...you could go childfree and live however you want instead. the advice above is really only for those who truly want children despite knowing the downsides of parenthood. Living the childfree life is the path I've chosen for myself,and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it,despite the sheep who will try to insult and pressure you just because they can't handle someone who has made different life choices than themselves and defied the "Lifescript"

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Re: Organic Food

Postby Summerlander » 25 Nov 2017 17:06

Sure, by all means, if you have the dosh and your goal is to be healthy, nothing wrong with the pursuit of proper supplements---especially if hedonism is your chosen lifestyle. That can certainly be done without organic food. Forget low-carb diets---we essentially need carbohydrates!---actually, forget any sort of diet. A person can remain healthy by taking everything in reasonable moderation. Unless, of course, one's body develops allergies or zero tolerance for certain pabula. If you really want to maintain a healthy BMI, Slimming World can provide a good strategy for lowering your calory ingestion, but your shopping bill will go up. I seen acquaintances verifying its efficacy and I really can't speak for other putative methods. :|

I'm glad you see the value of eugenics---even if it has acquired a stigma since the Holocaust; what people forget is that the Hitlerian elite were very anti-scientific when it came to genetic engineering: there is no such thing as a pure breed---'Aryan' is just a superficial image and a racist concept by the Nazis. If only the German people had known that Kevin Bacon is genetically closer to Barack Obama than Brad Pitt! It is true that some are genetically better endowed than others, but sometimes the most fatuous get lucky just as I'm willing to bet that brainboxes lacking opportunities, due to inconvenient circumstances, exist. Look at the fortune Donald Trump inherited and the investors who helped him because he was already someone since birth! Now he delegates at the Oval Office on matters he barely has the brain cells to comprehend---like climate change and immigration. Compare this buffoon to Nikola Tesla, a genius who practically died immiserated. There are also potential geniuses out there who are surrounded and discouraged by insolent or jealous individuals; whilst something like nepotism promotes the ineligible. There is also a simple truth: there are billions of us and only a limited amount of opportunities. Not everyone can be a leading neuroscientist; in a similar vein, not everyone can be a cleaner. :geek:

But we certainly want the best for our kids. I consider myself to be a fairly intelligent individual but I'm only a 5ft3" male---which means that I've been the subject of ridicule for most of my life. When I was 22, and still somewhat immature, I had my first child. I didn't even think that there was a possibility that my first son might inherit my bantam frame. He didn't. My wife's genes for his stature happened to be more expressive where mine were recessive. Then we had a petite girl and subsequently an average height boy. By this time I was pleased because, in our society, truncation seems to be more acceptable for females. Still, there is a good chance that my grandchildren will be the butt of jokes. If I knew what I know now, I would certainly spare mankind of further lilliputians. My wife, of course, wouldn't have this. She'd say, 'Why adopt when you have a sperm factory between my legs? Let those unable to have kids adopt.' But I concur with you. 8-)

I also hope genetic engineering will eradicate handicaps. Having kids shouldn't even be a right, it should be something you have to apply for, like driving; if you fail a test, you're ineligible. The test should entail the evaluation of genes as well as behaviour/attitudes. Yes, it is true that we naturally possess the tools for meiosis, but we didn't earn them and why should the rest of mankind accept offpring that could potentially set it back or be its scourge, right? We have certainly touched upon a polemical subject here. I wonder what others have to say about this. :twisted:
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

- Padmasambhava

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Re: Organic Food

Postby RedKryptonite » 26 Nov 2017 10:47

@Summerlander
Thank you for letting me know about Slimming World,it certainly looks promising. I'm a little bit suspicious about their "Eat as much as you can" leniency (even if you're eating lower calorie and more filling meals,you could still end up eating an excess level of calories and prevent fat loss altogether),but based on everything else I've read on their site,they are leagues better than the "average diet routine" that forces you to eat at extremely low calories,eliminate your favorite food choices,and engage in an excessively strenuous exercise regime. All of which will cause unbearable suffering to the average person trying to lose weight and thus fail miserably. Trust me,I know. ;)

(even if they did manage to suck it up till they lose weight,they will almost certainly not be able to maintain this in the long term. and in the rare case that someone manages to do this,is it really a victory? When u are constantly miserable from depriving yourself of your favorite meals and engaging in exercise that you either don't like or even hate. That's no way to live. I had a friend on youtube long ago who actually knew someone in real life who has done this,because of the constant pressure from his family and friends. He's constantly sick,stressed out,tired,and short tempered. Despite this,his family keeps praising him for his so called "success". Ugh! :roll: )

Several months ago,I bought the e-book "Superior Fat loss" from the author of this website,whom I found to be a very trustworthy source:
https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/

I can't go into detail here,but while I haven't read his entire book yet(I'll finish it once I'm in a position to execute his advice. Right now,I've got other things to worry about),he goes about it in a way that is actually long term sustainable unlike your typical crappy diet. Its just that from my position right now,I cannot really execute the advice and I'll have to achieve my financial goals first. For now,I'm sticking to measuring cups. is it ideal? No,far from it,but it'll have to do for now. I've also started taking Metformin as of the moment. I don't have diabetes,but I'm apparently pre-diabetic and there's been a bunch of studies done that says this medication actually helps people live longer and even lose weight in other people. FWIW,my grandmother takes this same medicine and she not only looks younger than her age,she's also more physically capable than many people at her age. So far,I haven't experienced any side effects.

You're right. From what I know,the most effective/successful people were raised in very nurturing environments by competent parents. There is the say that "Nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent."

Having kids shouldn't even be a right, it should be something you have to apply for, like driving; if you fail a test, you're ineligible

Absolutely! I'm convinced that the entire world would become a better place if society started applying this as law. There are too many unqualified parents out there,breeding out children who are almost certainly likely to end up unsuccessful/miserable in life because the parents lacked the knowledge and foresight to nurture them well. Provide them also with parenting training and in the future,when VR gets to a high level,provide a "Parenting simulator" so that people will experience what parenthood is like,and will shatter whatever illusions they had about it.

If a couple failed the "genetic" test but passed the personality/responsibility test,they should be allowed to adopt but not procreate. (at least until genetic engineering becomes available and at a high enough level to weed out bad traits)

If its the other way around(Good physical genes but irresponsible/terrible character)they shouldn't be allowed to parent,but instead encouraged (not "forced",encouraged)to just donate their sperm/eggs and pay them a decent price for it.

Would this lead to a lot of people forgoing parenthood altogether? Yes,but this is a good thing because it weeds out the people who would never have been good parents anyway.
Would this lead to under-population? maybe,maybe not. But in the future,we'll have robots to automate the grunt work for us,and so there won't be any need for an excessive number of people.

Allow me to add another controversial point-of-view. I'm pro-choice,and I believe that Abortion should be legal and it is a more ethical choice than either forced parenthood or giving the child up for adoption.

Here are a couple of horror/regret stories from people who were forced into parenthood. Nobody wins when parenthood is forced. that goes for both the couple and the children.
https://www.reddit.com/r/childfree/wiki/regret

As for the 2nd,as I've said before,children forced into foster care often end up living miserable lives. If they are born with less-than-stellar genes,that goes double. Its much more ethical to spare them such a fate.

I'd definitely like your opinion on this,and its something I brought up on another site. but do you think dangerous criminals should be forced sterilized? Personally,I say yes. Especially for the worst bunch like Pedophiles and obviously Psychopathic inmates. (of course,the worst of the worst are better off executed. but the ones who are very bad,but not enough to justify execution,should be forced sterilized)

Not only do we not want their genes spreading,but these kinds of people would make horrifying parents. (as if that wasn't obvious...)


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