The difference between waking life and the dream world.

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Jack Reacher
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The difference between waking life and the dream world.

Postby Jack Reacher » 04 Sep 2014 11:45

Where is the dividing line?

Or is there a dividing line?
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Re: The difference between waking life and the dream world.

Postby Snaggle » 04 Sep 2014 12:00

In the real world what one wills does not happen almost instantly and damage to ones body is much harder to repair and might be permanent. You'll also not die or suffer organ damage in a dream if one does not get proper food and drink. Women are also much less generous with their bodies in the real world - a good thing as being rejected is an essential part of building desire. It also sucks that one can't just possess people or animals and experience life in their bodies.
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Re: The difference between waking life and the dream world.

Postby Jack Reacher » 04 Sep 2014 12:17

Wasn't expecting a quality response so fast, nice one.

Keep em coming.
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Re: The difference between waking life and the dream world.

Postby Summerlander » 04 Sep 2014 13:00

The perception of waking life is part of a model created by our minds which is constrained by sensory input and serves as an interpretation. The perception of the dream world is largely unconstrained by sensory input (although it can be directly influenced by the external world in certain cases) and is thus part of a creative and malleable model. The dream model has the potential to reflect hidden (or subconscious) parts of the mind.

You want another difference? Waking life is us interacting with a world that is objectively existent. The universe is actual. The dream world is an illusion that only exists subjectively. Surreal, as Dali would have it. Nothing more than a mental concoction with no basis on reality other than neuronic activity.
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Re: The difference between waking life and the dream world.

Postby Jack Reacher » 05 Sep 2014 02:16

That is a fascinating perspective to know that the dream world is not constrained by reality. It is constrained by the mind I suppose, which is in itself constrained to some degree by reality.
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Re: The difference between waking life and the dream world.

Postby Jack Reacher » 05 Sep 2014 08:11

Nice answer, I would also like to reinforce the title that I mean waking life, so really im talking about our experiences as a whole, divided into two parts, when we are asleep, and when we are awake.
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Re: The difference between waking life and the dream world.

Postby Peter » 05 Sep 2014 08:33

in the dream world we tend to act more like curious children and explore, play and have fun and in the "real" world we do everything but that.
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Re: The difference between waking life and the dream world.

Postby Inedible » 05 Sep 2014 09:42

Waking life is more solid, heavy, and stable. It is also far more meaningful because it is shared. As it says in "A Course In Miracles", what cannot be shared is not real.

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Re: The difference between waking life and the dream world.

Postby nawick » 05 Sep 2014 16:24

I cant "Fly" in the real world (unless I am in one of those winged metal tubes that store terror and other negative emotions.)
In the real world there is only 1 of me. I have no ability to switch from 1st person to 3rd (? Top down) view.
In the real world, I will never wake up, and you can't make me.
In the real world, when I break something physiologically, if I sleep and wake up, it is still broken.
In the dream world I do not age, I am always at that perfect age, when ever that was.
In the dream world I am happy (usually) where as in the real world I am simply not unhappy.
In the real world, the shadow beings, lizard people, cat people, hooded beings, blazing beings, Marvins and those others don't exist, or else are very well disguised.
In the real world, "changing the channel" only works for the tv, not for existence.
In the dream world, I have never had OOBE/AP.
In the dream world, I don't have tinnitus, carpel tunnel nor am I color blind.
In the dream world, when you hit the bottom of the canyon, you simply bounce.
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Re: The difference between waking life and the dream world.

Postby Summerlander » 07 Sep 2014 01:49

Touche, nesgirl! And we definitely need our own personal space xx

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