Talking with Non LD friends and family

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Talking with Non LD friends and family

Postby buildit » 26 Sep 2014 01:50

So tonight I was discussing my discovery of the LD community. Of course she had no recollection of any previous conversations I'd had with her describing my dream control. So again I went on about how It started as a kid when I had bad dreams, she said she remembered that because I would sleep walk. But over all I still get that undertone of, "really? We didn't know you did drugs!" attitude I always get from Non LD people I have tried to describe what I do in my sleep. :cry:
Have any of you had experiences trying to define the LD experience to friends or family? I pray your results were more receptive than mine have been. :roll:
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Re: Talking with Non LD friends and family

Postby buildit » 26 Sep 2014 15:01

You have an interesting social group. I can't imagine what it would be like discussing my dreams with friends where I wouldn't flatly be laughed at for the rest of my days and accused of being a druggie. :roll:
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Re: Talking with Non LD friends and family

Postby dreamstudent » 26 Sep 2014 20:13

Generally I get uninterested results when I discuss the possibilities dreaming has on real life. Even with close family its quite sad really. Just the other day I was speaking with my basketball professor at the college and began to discreetly talk about dreams with him. He told me, "dreams were not important to him because they did not directly deal with his real life". However, he did tell me as I continued to nag him about dreams that he can remember his dreams more so when he eats food later in the evening and then goes to bed. It was quite frustrating talking to him about it as the main point of the conversation was would you prefer being book-smart or common-sense smart? I was thinking if your so common sense smart then you'd know dreams are important.

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Re: Talking with Non LD friends and family

Postby buildit » 26 Sep 2014 22:52

dreamstudent wrote:Generally I get uninterested results when I discuss the possibilities dreaming has on real life. Even with close family its quite sad really. Just the other day I was speaking with my basketball professor at the college and began to discreetly talk about dreams with him. He told me, "dreams were not important to him because they did not directly deal with his real life". However, he did tell me as I continued to nag him about dreams that he can remember his dreams more so when he eats food later in the evening and then goes to bed. It was quite frustrating talking to him about it as the main point of the conversation was would you prefer being book-smart or common-sense smart? I was thinking if your so common sense smart then you'd know dreams are important.


I think there is an unspoken stigma about discussing these sorts of ideas and concepts because there are some real nut cases out there who sink their teeth into abstract ideas in order to make their hypotheses work in reality. Even in discussing it on this forum I am somewhat guarded because I know how some of this sounds and I am trying very hard to be very open minded to the ideas and interpretation of others. :) Hate for everyone to find out what a mad man I really am. :lol:
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Re: Talking with Non LD friends and family

Postby buildit » 27 Sep 2014 00:04

nesgirl wrote:Actually Lucid Dreams aren't the only thing that receives controversy. Multimedia Design can be a form of controversy to many. Because designers are known to kill their Multimedia Characters or to do other things in their projects that would considered taboo in reality, people highly criticize them for that. It is even worse for them with discrimination when it comes to religious leaders. Religious leaders will almost always criticize them for doing such evil things, and will imply they are monsters that will be sent to hades because of the things they put in their projects. Hello to the leaders? Multimedia is NOT the real world. It is a reality we create ourselves through special programs, and therefore it shouldn't affect the real world on what we are doing with our projects (most of our designs in fact remain closed off from the public). Also if you decide to make a project based on what you believe in politics, then that can cause taboo as well.


Sounds like you're venting a bit. I'd avoid the church vs Bill Gates discussion in favor of a discussion as to weather the church has benefitted from those who may well have designed the future of man kind in their own Lucid Dreams. ;)
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Re: Talking with Non LD friends and family

Postby HAGART » 27 Sep 2014 01:18

People sleep walk through life thinking they know everything, but fail to realize waking life is only one side of a coin. Dreams are the other aspect of our psyche and to truly understand and know thyself, it is common sense to embrace your dreams and understand them. D'UH!

And knowing thyself has HUGE ramifications on waking life!

I wish I could say that out loud to my family, but I have to bite my tongue and understand that they simply don't get it. I have patience though and we should just all lead by example. I don't have anyone else to turn to either so that's why I come here! :D

Nothing's too crazy for me, buildit. I read your post about 'know thyself', and I didn't reply because all I would say is, "Yes!" ;)
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Re: Talking with Non LD friends and family

Postby buildit » 27 Sep 2014 01:52

HAGART wrote:Nothing's too crazy for me, buildit. I read your post about 'know thyself', and I didn't reply because all I would say is, "Yes!" ;)


8-) That's cool. Today was an awesome day helping my sister clean out an old wood pile from her property which gave me a chance to talk to her about LD. Her first response was, "oh yeah Mom said you were into some type of dream analysis." :roll: Gotta love family, but then it took seven years for them to get used to my motorcycling. :D
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Re: Talking with Non LD friends and family

Postby HAGART » 27 Sep 2014 02:27

Is that you in your picture, riding the motor cycle?

I have to check myself around family gatherings now because I like to drink a little (and sometimes a lot) which loosens my jaw, and my tongue starts flapping, and I feel like I want to get a bunch of things off my chest, which I had kept suppressed for so long, and start sharing my lucid dreams and all my insights.

I might say something like:
"Our brains are a reality machine interpreting nonsensical waves to produce reality as we know it and in a dream it does the same thing, but there are no waves; just subconscious imagination. We can't turn the reality machine off! So what is real? Are we just the universe perceiving itself through a prism of beliefs?"

(Stuff like that... and it's hard to express the ineffable when ideas occur without words... ) :ugeek:

It would get strange responses from many people if I were to say that, and not something we discuss in elevators, around the water cooler at work, or at the dinner table with family. But like I said, nothing is too strange or off-the-wall for me, when even I say seemingly 'crazy' things. :D
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Re: Talking with Non LD friends and family

Postby buildit » 27 Sep 2014 02:58

HAGART wrote:Is that you in your picture, riding the motor cycle?

I have to check myself around family gatherings now because I like to drink a little (and sometimes a lot) which loosens my jaw, and my tongue starts flapping, and I feel like I want to get a bunch of things off my chest, which I had kept suppressed for so long, and start sharing my lucid dreams and all my insights.

I might say something like:
"Our brains are a reality machine interpreting nonsensical waves to produce reality as we know it and in a dream it does the same thing, but there are no waves; just subconscious imagination. We can't turn the reality machine off! So what is real? Are we just the universe perceiving itself through a prism of beliefs?"

(Stuff like that... and it's hard to express the ineffable when ideas occur without words... ) :ugeek:

It would get strange responses from many people if I were to say that, and not something we discuss in elevators, around the water cooler at work, or at the dinner table with family. But like I said, nothing is too strange or off-the-wall for me, when even I say seemingly 'crazy' things. :D


Yeah, I'm the nut on the motorcycle. They are great therapy and if you ever need reality hop on one a get going too fast into a corner. LOL

Interesting perspective on the interpretation of reality by the mind, sounds dam similar to what my hypothesis is that dreams are in large part the subconscious trying to portray reality in order to comprehend all the data we take in. Lots of that data is junk and by sending it thru the dream filter if you will the conscious mind has a chance to analyze it and save the important parts for later use. I'll be a hit of our next family get together as I disclose my interpretation of the universe! :lol: Anyone wanna try to physically ascend to an energy state? ;)
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Re: Talking with Non LD friends and family

Postby buildit » 27 Sep 2014 03:22

nesgirl wrote:I am not criticizing everyone religious. I just want them to not to try to rule over a person's life and tell them what they can or cannot do, or bully those who are younger or handicapped, threatening them with creepy pasta stories.
That's there job. A study of the religious groups thru history provides more than adequate that they like any other group seek control. But as a scientist, I am also a Christian and believe there is good in both religion and faith. Even if it requires some parmesan cheese on the pasta at times to make everything sit right. :lol: :lol:


nesgirl wrote: Anyone wanna try to physically ascend to an energy state?

Uh no thanks. That sounds too much like an undead ritual, and even in a Lucid Dream I am phobic of the undead (not of the undead themselves, but of the rituals or becoming one of them)


No ritual, just one of my lucid dreams. :D The ideas of conservation of energy and transference between mater and energy states are both scientific theories with a lot of basis in fact. :ugeek: You should try it! Fastest way to travel in space, speed of thought! :P
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