Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

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Was Michael Jackson guilty or innocent?

Innocent
7
64%
Guilty
4
36%
 
Total votes: 11

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Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

Postby Summerlander » 03 Apr 2015 00:01

He didn't have much of a childhood. He burned his scalp shooting a Pepsi commercial. He got hooked on painkillers. He loved to spend time with children and play games.

Lisa Presley claimed she had a sexual relationship with Michael Jackson while they were married. Some say he was gay or asexual. Some accused him of being racist, and, for this reason, he bleached his skin. But then it was found that he had vitiligo.

His mother said he was exploited by certain agents after his fortune and that he was given bad advice during the allegations of child abuse. One of the kids who accused him said Jackson was circumcised but the autopsy revealed a foreskin.

Still, this doesn't mean anything. He admitted to innocently sleeping with kids. A grown man sleeping with so many kids? What is your take on this?

State your opinion and the reasons why... 8-)
Edit: Provide evidence if you can if you think people are not aware of it.

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Re: Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

Postby DesertExplorer » 03 Apr 2015 00:53

This is very old issue and there is still nothing to be proved.

We can only guess. Nothing to be discussed here.
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Re: Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

Postby Summerlander » 03 Apr 2015 01:18

There are older issues, such as JFK, which are open to speculation. I beg to differ. There is a lot to be discussed here. I would give Jackson the benefit of the doubt but I still wouldn't trust him with my kids.

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Re: Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

Postby DesertExplorer » 03 Apr 2015 01:40

Well, you don't need to, anyway. He's gone.
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Re: Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

Postby deschainXIX » 03 Apr 2015 01:49

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj2pPW_Jf8g

"What's wrong with sharing the love?" What a creep. :lol:

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Well said.

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Re: Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

Postby DesertExplorer » 03 Apr 2015 02:44

God bless America and it's Media. It sure did a good job on your minds.
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Re: Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

Postby Summerlander » 03 Apr 2015 11:00

He may be gone but so is JFK, Princess Diana, and Mother Teresa... speaking of which... the famous Albanian nun used to speak of love, too, whenever somebody confronted her.

Her institutions never looked after the needy as well as people believe. Analgesics were not used and needles were shared among patients but never sterilised. (Mother Teresa was against materialism.) A cancer patient was dying in unbearable pain and Mother Teresa whispered, "You are suffering like Christ on the cross, you are closer to him, you feel pain because he's kissing you." The terminally ill patient replied, "Well... tell him to stop kissing me."

Mother Teresa was a fraud, a political weapon, and led a cult of death, suffering and submission. All the while she maintained a good reputation. In contrast to the dying cluttered in her divine lodging , when she had heart problems she checked into the costliest and most sophisticated clinics.

I wonder if something similar, in terms of building trust and an innocent image, was going on with Michael Jackson. He certainly didn't help himself in that interview. Parents who distrust adults with their children are not ignorant. They are wise and cautious. Michael also seemed to have a predilection for sick and vulnerable children and one can't help but think: vulnerable prey for a famous predator?

There is evidence for Gary Glitter and Jimmy Saville. Where is the evidence for Michael Jackson?

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Re: Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

Postby deschainXIX » 03 Apr 2015 11:19

Yeah, Mother Teresa was nothing more than a magic healer from the Middle Ages who did more harm than good who became a super star. Yet most today don't heed Hitchens' brilliant journalism but continue to buy into the meme that she is some great moral figure.

People who are long dead are constantly being discussed, DesertExplorer. There's still some debate on whether Socrates was a real person or not, for example, or whether Nietzsche had syphilis or cancer when he went mad. Et cetera. In many ways, dead people are discussed far more trenchantly and profusely than the living.

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Well said.

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Re: Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

Postby DesertExplorer » 03 Apr 2015 14:28

Alright, then.

On the one hand, Michael paid a lot of money to keep himself look innocent, but two questions. How could any parent allow a child molester to sleep with his children for money? And, why Michael would do that, when he knows that he's a superstar and that thing would look bad?
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Re: Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

Postby Snaggle » 04 Apr 2015 00:33

Likely guilty

Evidence against
- fled the country to avoid arrest
- paid hush money to the families of his likely victims while out of the country
- had multiple victims and some still as adults and after his death claim he molested them
- the music industry has a lot of power and influence and Jackson was still hot and a big money maker when accused
- the media was almost 100% behind him and was just as corrupt then as it is now
- the music industry is a hotbed of pedophilia
- his mother thought he did it according to one of his sisters, but had to support him in public because she was dependent upon him
- pedophiles can and do sleep with their adult wives too (they like to breed their victims)
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