Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

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Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

Postby EnergyGem » 08 Jun 2016 08:07

Hi all,

New member here. : )

I've come across a fascinating book that talks about high level spiritual things from a scientific perspective. This book is intriguing as it talks about many similar things to what people in mystical states mention such as seeing into parallel dimensions and interacting with beings from other worlds etc.

This book is called Zhuan Falun and it is from the Buddha Law School of Cultivation however it is not Buddhism the religion or Daoism the religion, it's something more profound. It seems to me to be more of a spiritual science as many of the terms and concepts in the book are talked about in a scientific down to earth manner instead of flowery mystical prose which I found very refreshing.

Now here is where it gets interesting, this book talks about the following things:


Other Dimensions - Levels Of Dimensions spanning into the microcosm and also outwards into the macrocosm

The Soul - It talks about people having a Master soul and a subordinate soul which is hidden from you but is at a more advanced level then you, it states some people have more then one Subordinate soul and some are of not of the same sex as you i.e males having a female subordinate soul etc.

Microcosmic worlds - This concept was very far out but it talks about there being worlds within you, countless worlds. Similar to our world with life , water, animals etc. An analogy is zooming an an atom within one of your cells and realizing at that level of magnification it is just like our solar system. Then zooming into a single particle in that world and finding out it too is a vast world, apparently the level it can go onwards like this is beyond imagination.

Supernatural Abilities - In the book they mention that everyone has them it is just that they have atrophied. It goes into depth about this topic. Some abilities that are mentioned are precognition, retrocognition and remote vision.

The 3rd Eye - Talks about how at the front part of our pineal gland there is a complete structure of an eye there. Modern science calls it a vestigial eye but in the cultivation world they say this eye just naturally exists like that and it can be activated allowing one to pierce through this dimension and see other dimensions. It talks about how there are many levels to this 3rd eye and it goes into great depth about it.

Thoughts - This part was amazing. It talks about how a human brain is just a processing plant. How the real you is actually your soul, it's like your whole body and brain is just a vehicle and that the true commands are issued by your master soul, but this master soul is very tiny and it can switch positions while inside you and it can also expand and shrink. It can move from your brain to your heart and to other parts of your body and it is 'he' who calls the shots. Your brain is just the factory which your master soul sends his cosmic commands to which then create the forms of expression and communication we use such as speech, gestures, etc.



These are just a few things that are covered but there are many many other things which blew my mind when I read it because of how it resonated with some of the mystical experiences people sometimes have, especially the multidimensional nature of reality and how all of them are hidden in our day to day perceptions of the world.

If this sounds interesting to anyone you can grab a copy of the book here:

http://en.falundafa.org/eng/pdf/ZFL2014.pdf

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Re: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

Postby Pilgrim » 08 Jun 2016 10:26

What basis of authority is there for such claims?

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Re: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

Postby EnergyGem » 08 Jun 2016 10:45

Thankyou for the welcome Pilgrim. The author of Zhuan Falun is Master Li Hongzhi, the founder of Falun Dafa. Here is some information about Master Li Hongzhi:

By April 2001, Mr. Li Hongzhi had received over 340 awards and proclamations from Australia, Canada, China (before crackdown), Japan, Russia, and the U.S. in recognition of the extraordinary contributions to people's spiritual and physical health, and to freedom of belief in the world. These include certificates of recognition from several governmental bodies in the United States – including Honorary Citizenship awarded by The State of Georgia and city of Atlanta. On 14 March 2001, The Freedom House bestowed Li Hongzhi and Falun Gong with an International Religious Freedom Award for the advancement of religious and spiritual freedom at a ceremony in the United States Senate. In the same year, Li was ranked the most powerful communicator in Asia by Asiaweek magazine "for his power to inspire, to mobilize people and to spook Beijing". He was nominated for the 2001 Sakharov Prize by over 25 members of European Parliament, was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 2000 and 2001, and in 2013 was ranked by Foreign Policy Magazine as one of the 500 most powerful people in the world.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Hongzhi#Life_abroad

In terms of the Practice itself some scientific tests have been performed on Falun Dafa practitioners to verify that Cultivation energy tangibly exists:

http://www.pureinsight.org/node/189

Also, Falun Dafa has healed many thousand of people the world over from various ailments, some life threatening. Even for myself it has dissolved my anxiety and depression completely. Some more info on this:

http://www.pureinsight.org/node/6628

http://en.minghui.org/html/articles/2005/4/3/59184.html

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Re: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

Postby Pilgrim » 08 Jun 2016 22:19

EnergyGem wrote:In terms of the Practice itself some scientific tests have been performed on Falun Dafa practitioners to verify that Cultivation energy tangibly exists:

http://www.pureinsight.org/node/189


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Re: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

Postby Pilgrim » 08 Jun 2016 22:33

Okay, I read this article in the quote. It is interesting. The weakness is that the author, Dr. Liu, is an avid practioner of this religion. He suggests that this religion is how to discern "truth of the universe."

It seems to me that the science needs to be replicated by others who are either indifferent or hostile towards this religion.

I am happy that you have psychological benefit. I have profound psychological benefit from my religion too. The issue of truth is not necessarily correlated to psychological benefit.

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Re: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

Postby Pilgrim » 08 Jun 2016 22:38

EnergyGem wrote:... it states some people have more then one Subordinate soul and some are of not of the same sex as you i.e males having a female subordinate soul etc.

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Re: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

Postby Pilgrim » 08 Jun 2016 22:45

Claims like this are what I am curious of the authority. I am guessing that it is derived from some experience. It is highly elaborate with the possible multi subordinate souls, which can have opposite gender.

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Re: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

Postby Summerlander » 08 Jun 2016 22:57

Pilgrim wrote:The issue of truth is not necessarily correlated to psychological benefit.


I wholeheartedly agree with this. 8-)
"Empty cognizance of one taste, suffused with knowing, is your unmistaken nature, the uncontrived original state. when not altering what is, allow it to be as it is, and the awakened state is right now spontaneously present."

- Padmasambhava

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Re: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

Postby EnergyGem » 09 Jun 2016 05:12

Pilgrim, no offense taken. : )

I agree with you more tests need to be performed, I believe this emerging field will be studied more in depth by scientists in the coming years.

Here are a few scientific tests I have managed to find that have been performed in a similar vein:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/461442-superhuman-energy-cultivated-by-meditators-its-science/

Yes, in regards to the soul, subordinate soul, thoughts and other such topics such as dreams and the reasons behind them, this is thoroughly talked about in Zhuan Falun in talk 9 in particular. They have a whole section on the topic of Thoughts which I found deeply insightful.

In regards to the benefits of Dafa, many people have also improved their physiological conditions through practicing. In one of the books I shared with you 'Life and Hope Renewed The Healing Power Of Falun Dafa' it has first hand testimonials from people of all walks of like recovering from various serious ailments by practicing this Qi Gong system.

The theory which is actually Zhuan Falun is combined with the 5 powerful Qi Gong exercises, this is what constitutes the core of the practice. If you would like to take a look at the exercises they can be downloaded free here:

www.falundafa.org

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Re: Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

Postby Pilgrim » 09 Jun 2016 09:26

Thanks for the information. For now, I am not going to look further into what you sent, but it is good that readers can follow your leads if desired. I will want to check the "talk 9" at some point. I want to understand better too what is the basis for truth--revealed word, experience, and/or science.


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