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Sataaaaa
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Postby Sataaaaa » 30 Jun 2016 14:01

I've been trying the MILD & WBTB method for a week and still cant lucid dream. For beginners, does the sleeping position affect? Its just that when i sleep on my back,my body fall asleep but my mind keep wander around for about an hour and half. But when i sleep on my side, i just shut off immediately but still, lucid dream doesnt happen.

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Dane
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Re: Questionsss

Postby Dane » 30 Jun 2016 16:37

First of all, during this hour and a half, did you did any sort of reality check ?
For if your body is actually sleeping while your mind is not,
You normally should enter SP and at the very least notice something.
then you would have unintentionally tried a WILD.
So are you sure your body was asleep ?
Did you move during this one and a halfhour ?
could you also describe what do you when WBTB'ing.

Also, a week is too short to say anything.
No doubt about your efforts, but be patient and confident.

Good luck & stay tuned ;)
I returned from the abyss, as a married man. :D

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Re: Questionsss

Postby Sataaaaa » 01 Jul 2016 00:37

Sorry actually i meant to say 2 week. During the one and half hour period, i swallowed sometimes because my saliva was too much. Does that affect?

For WBTB, i woke up more or less 4 hour after sleeping. Then i try to MILD. There's also a time where i woke up 6 hour after fall asleep but nothing happened either. I just fall asleep

And how does SP should feel?

Thank you

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Re: Questionsss

Postby Dane » 01 Jul 2016 08:27

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis.

you'll know when it hits you.
and no, swallowing should not count as an interruption, for you also swallow unconsciously.

2weeks is too short aswel to say anything.
it can be frustrating to be denied a desire, but patience and discipline are the key words here.

have you considered that your frustration is blocking your lucidity ?

and actually i meant what activity do you do when you wake up during a WBTB ?
the bathroom, take a drink, read/write etc.

because the point of a WBTB is to get to a point, where your body easily sinks away, but your mind is awake enough to stay aware.

i personally won't stay up longer then 3-5 minutes, because my body wakes up very fast.
others take 30-60 minutes.
its varies per person, so you have to find that sweet spot.
I returned from the abyss, as a married man. :D

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Re: Questionsss

Postby Sataaaaa » 03 Jul 2016 21:53

Sometimes my eyelid tend open a little bit because it was too relaxed. Then i move my eyeball because there is light entering my eye. My room was not darker than my closed eyelid. And also, sometimes i found that i was flexing some muscle like my shoulder and neck. I didnt notice when did it happen but then i immediately relax. I can feel that my hand and my legs are numb but not my face

Yeah i think my frustration does block my lucidity. But i think im improving on that.

I go to the bathroom, and sometimes write my dream journal during WBTB

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Re: Questionsss

Postby Dane » 04 Jul 2016 08:06

the flexing of your muscles is a "request" signal.
your brain is asking your mind if its still awake.
if you deny response on those signals, SP would occur.

but if you would enter the dream through this, it would be a WILD.

try to get more hours before initiating WBTB, take 5 hours, this should put you in a sweetspot in the sleepcycles.

you pay for this in the currency of patience and confidence ;)

Good luck matey!
I returned from the abyss, as a married man. :D


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