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Postby Vaelan » 07 Feb 2017 09:01

Where to start? That would most likely be the most oft asked question for an introduction forum, especially this one.

I have a lot to discuss, however wandering the forum will be my first step. An introduction? Well how does one introduce oneself to such a forum?
I do not Lucid Dream. Not within the boundaries usually associated with such a term. I've tried to come up with many definitions over the years, however the easiest definition is usually the best.

I don't Sleep.

I'm here not so much as looking for answers. Those I have, and they have taken years to be answered. I feel I am more registering here to perhaps find some empathy and understanding if possible. My level of "dream state" reaches beyond Lucid, or Dream Yoga, or Tibetan teachings of the 3rd Bardo. That does sound like a lot, and it is. However for my mind, it is time I tried to connect with others who experiences may parallel mine.

I look forward to reading your forum and perhaps even discussing some topics.

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Re: Vaelan

Postby Sean Jacobs » 07 Feb 2017 13:56

Welcome Vaelan. Would you be able to expand on your statement that you "Don't Sleep." I assume that you don't mean that you never physically sleep, once cannot physically survive without sleep.
"All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream." ~ Edgar Allan Poe

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Re: Vaelan

Postby Vaelan » 07 Feb 2017 16:15

When I close my eyes, to rest I am awake. Call it sleep if you will. I never drop into Alpha waves, ( clinically tested ), and enter a conscious state immediately, what you may call lucid dreaming. I stay in this state for however long I wish to, lately not long though as most conscious dreams are relatively boring.

It's interesting that you bring up the statement of one cannot survive without sleep, it's something I brought up with my wife before she went to bed. As a psychologist she didn't have any answers either (again) and we laughed.

What is sleep? Definitions of all kinds aside I can't actually answer that question. What I used to experience as a younger man may be called sleep, however I was Lucid Dreaming even at the age of 13. Many decades ago.

Mainly I believe people say sleep allows them to regain strength and rest. Allow the subconscious to examine previous memories, that the conscious mind tries to work on in a waking state. Because I am never in an unconscious state then by definition I don't sleep.

The explanation is always the most difficult part in the beginning. Many Specialists, Doctors, and Spiritual Guides have no grounding point for their understanding to clarify the process in which I go through on a day to day basis. How can one explain swimming to someone that has lived in a hot desert all their lives, and never seen an body of water bigger than a well?

The best way for me I guess is to break it down. I lay down. I may meditate, I may simply listen to my own heart or the things around me. In a split second I am in a conscious sleep state. This state may last hours or involve time compression, where the perceived time may be days, or minutes, when in real time I may have been in this state for only a few minutes or maybe a few hours. When I open my eyes, there is no transition from a bleary eyed tiredness to gradually waking up with a cup of coffee in the morning. I am simply alert. As alert as I was when I had my eyes closed. Sometimes dangerously so as I am hypersensitive with all senses, and am a practiced Martial Artist. My wife has come to wake me up to a very defensive self even whilst in bed. She now just taps my foot :) it saves a lot of jump scares.

This is my sleep. Which is not what many would call sleep at all, as I am totally aware, and function normally, within this dream state.
I've tried to come up with a descriptive name for it for years. The wording on the forum header was one I used to use "Conscious Dreaming".
Yet being aware in your dream in not the same as being able to control your dream, nor "fall asleep" within that dream and be aware in that state too. Something which I refer to as levels. Sleep within Sleep, Dreams within Dreams. "Diving" was a term I used for quite some time as that's what it felt like, wondering how far down I would go this time.

Now I just call it Sleep Insomnia. The inability to sleep because I am consciously dreaming in a controlled manner.

My answer to your question may not suffice however it is the best I can do with text on an internet forum. Another reason I joined here is that over the years my Sleep Insomnia has gown. there have been learning curves, and self evaluation, attaining control, and then finding that such a state is, for better words I cannot find so forgive my bluntness, but "dull". I feel there is more.

I feel I could write for hours here but this is merely an introductory forum, and what I have to share may be better served in another forum on this site. I am hoping to find more insight, perhaps even provide some. Connections with others like myself is difficult if not impossible, the understanding more so, and rarely have I found such a connection within my conscious sleep state.

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Re: Vaelan

Postby Yvonne » 22 Feb 2017 01:55

I understand this perfectly. This is not an usual state for me but is becoming more and more common. I go hours where I know I wasn't "asleep" but still I dream. I find that these kinds of dreams are easier to control and maneuver through but more difficult to remember. Go figure....

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