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Juckles
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Why You Haven't Mastered Lucid Dreaming

Postby Juckles » 25 Nov 2017 20:16

I see so many people who say they have mastered lucid dreaming and haven't.

So i want to give the definition of mastered.

master - acquire complete knowledge or skill in (an accomplishment, technique, or art).

Mastered is past tense meaning you have accomplished master of a technique art or thing.
I see people say I mastered lucid dreaming because they have lucid dreamed one time or can do it every night they fall asleep,
just because you can lucid dream every night doesn't mean you have mastered lucid dreaming.
To master lucid dreaming you must be proficient in all techniques and even good enough to make your own technique,
there are some sub skills i see people just putting to the side or not even knowing about that are super important.
The main one is visualization being able to morph and control the environment with ease if you get good enough at it you can play multiple chess games with your subconscious and even split you perspective and conscious perspective into multiple parts.
And even mastering that is not even enough you must also be proficient in the knowledge and this where no one can be sure if they have mastered lucid dreaming because if you think you have all of the knowledge needed there could be more out there you just don't know about.

To sum this up we can't be for sure that anyone has mastered lucid dreaming but we can still explore.

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goldenrose
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Re: Why You Haven't Mastered Lucid Dreaming

Postby goldenrose » 29 Nov 2017 00:13

Couldn't agree more. Lucid dreaming is one of those skills/practices that can never be truly mastered, no matter how experienced you are. There is always something new to learn, so it seems.
Darkness is always held up by the light.

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RedKryptonite
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Re: Why You Haven't Mastered Lucid Dreaming

Postby RedKryptonite » 29 Nov 2017 10:21

goldenrose wrote:Couldn't agree more. Lucid dreaming is one of those skills/practices that can never be truly mastered, no matter how experienced you are. There is always something new to learn, so it seems.

Indeed. Its just like the Martial arts,Psychology,or even Sports. You can become a highly competent practitioner,enough so to even be a great teacher of that specific field,but to say you've "mastered" something means that you've learned everything there is to learn about that subject. The human mind(that includes lucid dreaming and Dreams in general)is way too complex for that to ever really happen.

lucidé
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Re: Why You Haven't Mastered Lucid Dreaming

Postby lucidé » 29 Nov 2017 23:13

I can lucid dream every night, but I cannot say I've learned everything. I am still learning all the time.
An example of lucid dreaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW7ps_VSPkg (1:46 Is that me or is this me? "Am I still dreaming?") Simpsons example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3X1n5Yny3g

eaglehawk
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Re: Why You Haven't Mastered Lucid Dreaming

Postby eaglehawk » 01 Jan 2018 11:21

I understand where you are coming from but when I tell my friends (when I finally start gettingLD) I’ve mastered lucid dreaming it will be when I’ve had multiple dreams and wanted to do something a be able to with no issues, now if this will happen or not I never know but I think lucid dreaming is a personal thing that can’t be compared the others so when mastering it isn’t something that is set by a standard but by a personal goal.(that still doesn’t give people to the right to say they are a master at LD cause they would be misleading but instead they should say I can do everything I want to do)

BungalaHuma
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Re: Why You Haven't Mastered Lucid Dreaming

Postby BungalaHuma » 01 Jan 2019 00:14

My experiance in lucid dreaming is based on living with narkolepsia. I self taught lucid dreaming to the extent that it entering them became second nature to me. How tibetan monks define mastering lucid dreaming is, that a person has to enter a fully developed, stable lucid dream and them be able to disolved that dream and build a new from the darkness. Or based on my experiance thats how i define their view.

On my experiance, after years of lucid dreaming, when I entered a dream, I was always contious of my action. Basically I requered three components from the dream to be able to desolve it. I needed a physical body that funtioned proparly, then i needed the dream to stop moving and finally I needed a ground to stand on. Then I did a few hand signs (naturo inspired) and slammed my hand to the ground. I would them slide through the ground to pitch black and after that I could create a New dream by taking to the dream and it would answer. Say street, a street would appear, say house it would appear and so fourth. Ones I learned this, I could use it to change nightmares into different dream.

Basically I have seen more than 1000 lucid dreams and same amount of sleep paralizes. If you seek more defined answers about lucid dreams or my personal experiance, ill answer to the best of my abilities.

wlndr
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Re: Why You Haven't Mastered Lucid Dreaming

Postby wlndr » 05 Jan 2019 06:49

BungalaHuma wrote:My experiance in lucid dreaming is based on living with narkolepsia. I self taught lucid dreaming .... .... If you seek more defined answers about lucid dreams or my personal experiance, ill answer to the best of my abilities.


BungalaHuma, any books or mentors to recommend, for a solid foundation of experienced knowledge?

ggscrochet
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Re: Why You Haven't Mastered Lucid Dreaming

Postby ggscrochet » 10 Jan 2019 18:39

How are people lucid dreaming every night? I would love to be able to do this!!!

DeadVoices
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Re: Why You Haven't Mastered Lucid Dreaming

Postby DeadVoices » 12 Jan 2019 07:48

"My experiance in lucid dreaming is based on living with narkolepsia. I self taught lucid dreaming to the extent that it entering them became second nature to me. How tibetan monks define mastering lucid dreaming is, that a person has to enter a fully developed, stable lucid dream and them be able to disolved that dream and build a new from the darkness. Or based on my experiance thats how i define their view. "
-BungalaHuma

"Narcolepsy = narkolepsia" I hope I understand rightly....

"To master lucid dreaming you must be proficient in all techniques and even good enough to make your own technique,
there are some sub skills i see people just putting to the side or not even knowing about that are super important.
The main one is visualization being able to morph and control the environment with ease if you get good enough at it you can play multiple chess games with your subconscious and even split you perspective and conscious perspective into multiple parts."

This is "sorta" true. My path taught me all will lead unto the "path" if you follow it.

TL;DR = THIS

Train your mind/body/spirit to find the truth, my truth was paved by my "guru" Franz Bardon.

Those "sub skills" can be important or useless, depends on your own path. I have found that visualizing balance of +/- seems to set me right so far, but I am still learning as we all do!
I hear the voices of the dead and long gone before we are now.

The past is long and gone, and the "future" will never come; WHY? We are NOW.


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