Jordan Peterson VS Cathy Newman

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Jordan Peterson VS Cathy Newman

Postby DesertExplorer » 11 Apr 2018 13:18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rE03PGQfA

That's the funniest thing I watched for a while and I thought I should share it.

Joking aside, I have so much respect for Jordan Peterson and I admire his honesty. Since I watched that interview, I watched so many videos of him teaching in class and I am totally hooked!

What do you think of this funny video? And have you ever listened to him before or read his book which is titled: 12 Rules For Life?

Let me know!
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Re: Jordan Peterson VS Cathy Newman

Postby Summerlander » 12 Apr 2018 08:18

Jordan Peterson certainly came across as intellectually superior in this exchange. :lol:

The strident Cathy Newman---who seems to assume most men are sexist---is nothing but a scatterbrain from the authoritarian political correctness camp of 'social justice warriors' (the 'offense sensitivity' undergirding their voice is very much criticised by her opponent). :mrgreen:

Peterson is a renowned psychologist and university professor delving into belief systems and supporting freedom of speech; a different species altogether. (No wonder he clashed with Newman.) Peterson recognises that postmodernism---which promulgates multiculturalism, cultural relativism and identity politics---has the potential to destroy Western civilisation. :idea:

He's far more experienced and she simply wasn't ready for him. By the time she went to Oxford as a fledgling, Peterson was already teaching at Harvard. 8-)
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Re: Jordan Peterson VS Cathy Newman

Postby HAGART » 12 Apr 2018 21:53

So what about those lobster people?
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Re: Jordan Peterson VS Cathy Newman

Postby Summerlander » 13 Apr 2018 00:23

Apparently they are very much like us with their serotonin. :mrgreen:

Did you see how Newman was not understanding the professor's statements about gender pay gap and kept distorting his semantics? That was cringeworthy.

I think the lobsters were a red herring to hide the simple fact that she didn't know what to say next! :lol:
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Re: Jordan Peterson VS Cathy Newman

Postby Summerlander » 14 Apr 2018 14:38

Here's what Jordan Peterson thinks of Cathy Newman after the interview: :D

https://youtu.be/vXkLaZLSzgM

I think he's accurate in describing Newman's interviewing tactics as 'barb with a bait' and that her response to his statements were conversationally irrelevant. Her choice of words was certainly a tool to achieve an end from an ideological perspective. I'm glad millions of people online support him on the fight against postmodernism and identity politics!

When it comes to Newman, Peterson's diagnosis makes a lot of sense. In her world, domination is better than truth---a stance not unlike that of a dictator.

Newman is not a good journalist. Her kind does a lot more than just rub people off the wrong way with lies and sensationalist stories (we're talking about ruining reputations and destroying lives), and yet, her holier-than-thou persona had the temerity to scald the likes of Peterson for offending people with the truth.

The Guardian has already published an article defiling Jordan Peterson and painting Cathy Newman as a victim. According to Channel 4, Newman was merely doing her job which happened to expose alt-right hero Peterson's nefarious agenda, and that when the results were posted on Youtube, she immediately received a minatory backlash threatening her person from the professor's 'army of trolls'! :lol:

Apparently Channel 4 called a security specialist to assess the level of threat---no doubt to spin a sensationalist lie because no reason was found to get the police involved---and despite the fact that Peterson urged people online to not threaten Newman, as their interaction was only an exchange of words, media outlets in Canada still ran with the story against him and used his tweet to confim that he has an 'army' out there. :roll:

One can clearly see how befitting it is for a Jungian psychoanalyst to describe someone who rants about social inequality from the New Left camp as an 'animus-possessed neo-Marxist'. :twisted:
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Re: Jordan Peterson VS Cathy Newman

Postby HAGART » 15 Apr 2018 02:56

I haven't heard of Jordan Peterson until DesertExplorer brought him up. Once you see one video on You Tube, you watch more. I saw the entire interview in full today and know more about those lobsters now. I also saw some aftermath with Joe Rogan where he also tells how Cathy was perfectly normal in the green room, but once the cameras rolled she became an actress. I saw that video you sent too, Summerlander. Just half, but you sum it up anyway.

I plan to write more, but want to just say that I am really fascinated by this guy. I need to clean my room first.
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Re: Jordan Peterson VS Cathy Newman

Postby Summerlander » 15 Apr 2018 05:25

He is brilliant against political correctness shit. But he is appalling when he fails to refute antinatalism against David Benatar. :mrgreen:
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Re: Jordan Peterson VS Cathy Newman

Postby HAGART » 20 Sep 2018 03:34

Jordan Peterson destroys his own arguments against his rival, Peter Jordanson. :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buD2RM0xChM
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Re: Jordan Peterson VS Cathy Newman

Postby Summerlander » 20 Sep 2018 10:59

Very funny, Hagart! :mrgreen:

Peterson is an intelligent man, no doubt. His rationalisation powers are par excellence. But he is terribly complacent when it comes to philosophising about subjects outside his field of expertise.

He can be lazy and careless, especially when he devises impromptu a priori conclusions on complex subjects using a misguided sense of logic and intuition. I suspect his Jungian outlook gets in the way, too.

Here's Matt Dillahunty on Peterson after having debated with him:

https://youtu.be/4LjYovTo4uc
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Re: Jordan Peterson VS Cathy Newman

Postby DesertExplorer » 20 Sep 2018 18:09

Hello, guys! Long time no see.

Jordan Peterson must be the only reason I became more open minded towards religions and their teachings.

He has stated that he is a Christian and deeply religious. I found that contradiction very weird at first and I was so curious to find out why.

Now I am curious to study religions (that by the way I truly believe that most people misinterpret).

I'm saying all that because I came to realise that all you need to be more open to some subjects is a man who you admire so much for his honestly and intelligence that you can't help but listen what he has to say about a subject that you were fanatically invested in (such as religion).

But of course that doesn't mean that it works for everyone. I am not converted. I am just more open to discussing this subject. You could imagine how many of his fans will just be just the opposite of converted and actually completely discard his opinions on this one just because they have decided long away to always react the same way to new ideas regarding religion: Disagree.

It actually disappoints me that most of his fans while applauding him for his honesty, his intelligence, and his values, feel like it is shame that he studies and follows Christianity so much. Many feel like he's a victim.

It's so weird that often those who call themselves skeptics, are so intolerant when it comes to the subject of religion and actually come off as ideologically possessed.

I would like to know your opinions regarding this matter. Please, feel free to share them so we can talk and possibly extend our understanding of the subject.
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